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Old 09-05-08, 10:26 PM
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Hi

Been shooting about 2 months, excluding beginners course.

I shoot reasonably well. Do i need a clicker??

If so which one? What size for a KAP Winstar 2.

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If screwed on the bow type then the thread is 6/32 (cartel, win & win or beiter. Magnetic ones (cavalier Spigarelli) are also available they attach behind the sight block (you may need longer screws)

There is nothing to say that you should not give one a try, but if it's set up wrong you will be trying to draw the arrow too far or too little.

IMO The key in setting one up is to get the person setting it at the right position to not just look at where the arrow point is but also at the same time check that your overall form is as good as it gets for your current level. That way it will be in the right place. Then you should just shoot normally and the clicker will go click and you release, if not or it goes off too early it is telling you that you are not doing it right.
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Old 09-05-08, 10:41 PM
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Clicker is as integral as riser limbs string and arrows.
Should be on the bow within the first session.
Who cares if it is being used wrong at this point, so is every other piece of the style.
This is refined with time as is everything else.
set it close to right, smidgen long and get on with it.
There is no such discussion as this in other european coaching circles.
A clicker is more important than a sight

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Old 10-05-08, 09:05 AM
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I'm of the same opinion regarding clicker use. It's there to help not hinder.
Therefore it should not be regarded as it is by some, as a tool that should only available to you after you have served a suitable time in your archery apprenticeship.
If an archer is coached to understand the mechanics of archery and the clicker is explained fully, there should be no problems whilst using the clicker.
As Clicky said it's your friend. I agree!!!
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Old 10-05-08, 04:27 PM
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Clicker is as integral as riser limbs string and arrows.
Should be on the bow within the first session.
Who cares if it is being used wrong at this point, so is every other piece of the style.
This is refined with time as is everything else.
set it close to right, smidgen long and get on with it.
There is no such discussion as this in other european coaching circles.
A clicker is more important than a sight

rant over
To a point I agree especially if the club has somebody on hand most club nights to help "refine with time" their shooting technique. But I see far too many archers on the shooting lines at tournaments from "Bowman" down to 3rd class being hampered and getting lower scores than they should by an incorrectly set clicker, probably none the wiser that it is set too short or too long. Most of these are also mainly self taught for all the reasons mentioned on other coaching threads.

They have no problem with the click and let go it's just their form has developed and is contorted to shoot with a clicker not the otherway round.
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Old 10-05-08, 04:33 PM
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because something is misused is not an excuse to not use it or be scared of it. I have heard this argument so many times and at the risk of turning this into the ultimate combination of the two most feared threads a Coaching/clicker thread i will say this: Clicker use can be taught, assesed and refined in one session and anyone who cant explain it to a novice, set it up and then explain to them the things to concentrate and watch out for, should not be a coach. Similarly if an archer has these things explained to them then does it wrong that is not the clickers fault
There is no mystiscism every recurve should have one from day one.
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Old 10-05-08, 04:54 PM
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Learn to use the clicker sooner rather than later.
You will need / want it ultimately, and rather get it in as part of your learning while you are settling in than later.
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because something is misused is not an excuse to not use it or be scared of it. I have heard this argument so many times and at the risk of turning this into the ultimate combination of the two most feared threads a Coaching/clicker thread i will say this: Clicker use can be taught, assesed and refined in one session and anyone who cant explain it to a novice, set it up and then explain to them the things to concentrate and watch out for, should not be a coach. Similarly if an archer has these things explained to them then does it wrong that is not the clickers fault
There is no mystiscism every recurve should have one from day one.
As I said I do not disagree with the introduction of a clicker early I also believe that clicker use can be taught and none of this is the clickers fault. I am also well aware of the "Clicker ruined my archery brigade" of which I am not a member.

All I am saying is once you have used one for a while and your form starts to improve you then set it up properly - that's the stage many never get round to either off their own backs or with a coach the majority out there do not have coaches on hand every club night and are left to fend for thems...oops strayed from the thread IMO this is why there are so many archers out there that are so anti the clicker.
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Old 10-05-08, 05:58 PM
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I tend to agree that a clicker should be used from day 1 (1.5, perhaps). What would be useful, though, is having some system for use on club bows to record the clicker position for each individual. Until archers buy their own equipment, and especially if there are a couple of beginners' courses per season, bows are likely to be shared, and, like the sights, clickers will need to be set up each session. Any suggestions?
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The easiest thing to do would be to score marks into the clicker plate and then record the position of the clicker against each person (along with the bow and arrows that the beginner uses).
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Old 10-05-08, 07:41 PM
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I tend to agree that a clicker should be used from day 1 (1.5, perhaps). What would be useful, though, is having some system for use on club bows to record the clicker position for each individual. Until archers buy their own equipment, and especially if there are a couple of beginners' courses per season, bows are likely to be shared, and, like the sights, clickers will need to be set up each session. Any suggestions?
Piece of masking tape over the area and simply divide it into sections and or numbers. They can then write down each persons clicker ref.
Cheap and simple with no damage to the bow at all.
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