clockwise or anti clock? String twist??

[WhitehartFB]

Originally Posted by tel

Even straight-fletched arrows are 'handed' - the #### fletch is on the other side

True when you use beiter nocks

[addo]

Are you saying that twisting the string clockwise makes the string shorter than twisting the string the same number of turns anticlockwise starting from an untwisted string?

YES i am,because thats how it was.

I can see a way to explain how it might happen,but i couldnt explain it by writing.Its a bit far fetched.I was more concerned that anticlockwise loosened the serving

[Cimbian]

Originally Posted by addo

YES i am,because thats how it was.

I can see a way to explain how it might happen,but i couldnt explain it by writing.Its a bit far fetched.I was more concerned that anticlockwise loosened the serving

Please try... I just can't see it otherwise, unless the starting point was not truly zero twists.

[addo]

Originally Posted by Cimbian

Please try... I just can't see it otherwise, unless the starting point was not truly zero twists.

The starting point was with zero twists.I noticed that when twisted clockwise the string was nice and round.When i twisted string anticlockwise the string was sort of 50p shaped even after shooting quite a few arrows.I did manage to get the string rounded with a bit of burnishing and this added a bit more to the length.

The only explanation i can come up with is that maybe the string retained memory from being twisted clockwise and so when twisted opposite way this somehow altered the way the strands sat together.I have to admit that this theory lends itself to making the string shorter not longer,so i'm just as perplexed as you.

You seem to be a lot more interested in this subject than i was.I would have gladly posted you the strings so you could have confirmed my findings,but they have been binned.I brought custom made 65" string which i find ideal twisted clockwise.Looking at my new Hoyt manual its the length the recomend for a 68" bow.I,m sure they spend a few quid by way of research so who am i to argue.

[tel]

I don't know how far this can go if the issue of 'clockwise or not' is a controversial one...
But that aside - if the way the serving goes in relation to the string twists is important, then what of the direction of twists in the raw material before you make the string and twist it? Are they already in opposition on either side of the 'endless' string? If you serve your end loop with the flow, when you bring the two sides together are you serving one against the other?
Does it matter? If so, who to? Not the likes of me (in terms of results), so to those that it can/does make a difference to - well done!

Its nice to ponder these things occasionally - but sometimes it just makes my head hurt!!!

[grimsby archer]

Originally Posted by tel

If you serve your end loop with the flow, when you bring the two sides together are you serving one against the other?
Does it matter? If so, who to? Not the likes of me (in terms of results), so to those that it can/does make a difference to - well done!

Its nice to ponder these things occasionally - but sometimes it just makes my head hurt!!!

Sure, when you put the end serving on the part of the string that will become the "loop" you dont have any twists in the string. It is an open loop at that point. then you bring the ends of that loop together and sure the start of the loop goes the opposite way to the end of the loop, but this part of the string wont get any twists as it is held open by the limb tip. Then you serve the rest of the end serving. This is important to get the right way as if it is the wrong way, when you put twists into the string (and this part of the string does get twists) you will either be tightening or slackening the serving as the serving is anchored at both ends. It matters in terms of results when half way through your next comp, the serving falls apart.

[tel]

I did say "..what of the direction of twists in the raw material.."

[chrstphr]

Originally Posted by BigBiker

For a right hander. If you were to put the lower limb on the floor with string at right angles to the floor, looking down the string from the top limb. which direction should the string be twisted??

Cheers

Mine are clockwise.



Chris

[tel]

lie on the floor and look up - no difference!

[cornish george]

Originally Posted by Robin the Hood

Maybe the bracing height of the axle would increase, ...... or would the front just collapse?...

Paul...

No you just corner much better than expected.