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Old 17-05-08, 11:35 AM
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I think the main problem is with store bought strings it can be difficult for beginners especially to know which way the serving was wound on in the first place.
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Old 17-05-08, 03:37 PM
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I think the main problem is with store bought strings it can be difficult for beginners especially to know which way the serving was wound on in the first place.
Good reason to NOT buy store bought strings
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Old 17-05-08, 03:45 PM
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Good reason to NOT buy store bought strings
Nothing wrong with getting them custom made though if they are willing to go by your specifications etc.
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Old 17-05-08, 04:04 PM
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The string twist direction as got me confused as of lately. I realised that Stu's strings are twisted clockwise (from bottom, not sure abt top) for RHanders, while a reputable string maker over here twists his strings anti-clockwise. I've thought about it for some time, and couldn't come to a conclusion. So I gave up thinking, and just continued shooting.
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Old 17-05-08, 04:07 PM
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Reputable string maker eh?

Sometimes we archers like to overthink things I guess hehe.
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Old 17-05-08, 06:16 PM
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The string twist direction as got me confused as of lately. I realised that Stu's strings are twisted clockwise (from bottom, not sure abt top) for RHanders, while a reputable string maker over here twists his strings anti-clockwise. I've thought about it for some time, and couldn't come to a conclusion. So I gave up thinking, and just continued shooting.

Just try and imagine the centre serving when adding twists to the string, and ask yourself if, when adding the twists, the direction you are going is adding tension on the twist of the serving or not.
One other point is when centre serving the string. Do not add the twists needed prior to this, as it will make problems later if it is found that the B/H has to be reduced....

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Old 17-05-08, 07:43 PM
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For a right hander. If you were to put the lower limb on the floor with string at right angles to the floor, looking down the string from the top limb. which direction should the string be twisted??

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If you are right handed all twists in string and serving should turn clockwise .I was wondering the same thing 2 months ago so i done a bit of testing.I used 4 different factory made,shot in 64 1/2" long,16 strand D75 strings.All centre servings were wound on to suit a string that has the top loop twisted clockwise(what most think is for a right hander) All strings worked fine for whole sessions of shooting

When i turned the top loop anti clockwise the centre serving did start to work loose a very small amount over a few sessions BUT my sightmarks were a lot better.I think this was because the strings were a 1/4" longer,thus reducing my bracing height and improving the tune of my bow.To get the same bracing height clockwise i,ve only ever been able to get 8-12 twists in these strings.Having so few twists affected tune negatively.I,ve come to the conclusion that all factory made strings for a 68" recurve bow are made for right handed archers and that they are all too short.

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Old 18-05-08, 11:01 PM
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If you are right handed all twists in string and serving should turn clockwise .I was wondering the same thing 2 months ago so i done a bit of testing.I used 4 different factory made,shot in 64 1/2" long,16 strand D75 strings.All centre servings were wound on to suit a string that has the top loop twisted clockwise(what most think is for a right hander) All strings worked fine for whole sessions of shooting

When i turned the top loop anti clockwise the centre serving did start to work loose a very small amount over a few sessions BUT my sightmarks were a lot better.I think this was because the strings were a 1/4" longer,thus reducing my bracing height and improving the tune of my bow.To get the same bracing height clockwise i,ve only ever been able to get 8-12 twists in these strings.Having so few twists affected tune negatively.I,ve come to the conclusion that all factory made strings for a 68" recurve bow are made for right handed archers and that they are all too short.

Sorry if a bit off topic at the end
Are you saying that twisting the string clockwise makes the string shorter than twisting the string the same number of turns anticlockwise starting from an untwisted string? That just sounds SO wrong.
Or are you saying that 10 turns anticlockwise on a string with 30 clockwise turns already in it makes the string longer? That stands to reason: 30 clockwise turns, 10 turns anticlockwise leaves 20 clockwise twists, less twists in string, longer string.
Sure if you twist the string against the direction of the servings the serving will come undone. We already established that on the grounds that you are effectively unwinding the serving.
Sure dropping your bracing height will improve your sight marks. Youve lengthened the power stroke of your bow. 28" draw length from a 9" bracing height =19" of actual draw. 28" draw length from an 8" bracing height = 20" of actual draw. The energy stored in the bow is a function of the actual draw distance, qed the longer the actual draw, the more power.
Presuming you have improved the tune (or not made it worse) you may have reduced contact between the arrow and bow improving the efficiency too
I still maintain that it makes no appreciable difference whether one is left or right handed as to whether one should twist the string clockwise or anti.

It sounds like one of those things they do to apprentices. You know, being sent to get a "long stand" or a "glass hammer" or a "sky hook" or a "left handed screwdriver".

I sometimes send novices to the equipment container to fetch "left handed arrows"
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Old 19-05-08, 03:57 AM
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now to get you all thinking,
i hope you look at how each string strand is twisted and serve the end loops in the same direction as that, then after setting brace height by twisting in the same direction,serve the centre serving in the direction of twists, therfore all string strands, servings and twists are going in the same direction.
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Old 19-05-08, 07:03 AM
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....I sometimes send novices to the equipment container to fetch "left handed arrows"...
Even straight-fletched arrows are 'handed' - the #### fletch is on the other side
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