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Old 02-06-08, 11:39 PM
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Question A question on tuning?

Hi all! I have been having some problams recently with my bows tuning, I have a fair idea what to do but still I am wondering if I could get some opinoins on this?

Basicaly when I shoot 90 meters with my bow setting my pin over the gold and shoot 6 arrows they group to the far right of the target in line with the gold in the 1-2 scoring zone, without moving my sight at 70 meters I get the same effect but grouping in the 5-6 then at 50 and 30 and indeed all my distances under 50 meters I group in the gold.

I beleive that this is due to my button being to soft, so am I rite in assuming that if I increase my button tension that my groups will become more centred at longer distances?
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Old 02-06-08, 11:54 PM
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Check out the archers referance guide.

http://www.texasarchery.org/Document...archref_05.pdf


Should explain it in a bit more detail
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Old 03-06-08, 12:05 AM
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Assuming that you are doing everything correct, standing up straight not canting the bow to the right etc, Check to make sure your sight is level with the bow, there are threads to search on this forum.

before touching button presure move you sight toward the arrow for the 90 m group, then check it again at 70 with out adjusting the left right axis,
eliminate one easily fixed problem at a time. then you can move onto button pressure limb pundage etc.
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Old 03-06-08, 01:06 AM
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all things being equal (which often they aren't) and that you have this effect on a windless day- go with your plan...and see what happens - taking a note of your current button tension first.
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Old 03-06-08, 07:51 AM
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I had the same situation a few years ago. A small adjustment to centre shot sorted it for me.
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Old 03-06-08, 08:39 AM
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Hi all! I have been having some problams recently with my bows tuning, I have a fair idea what to do but still I am wondering if I could get some opinoins on this?

Basicaly when I shoot 90 meters with my bow setting my pin over the gold and shoot 6 arrows they group to the far right of the target in line with the gold in the 1-2 scoring zone, without moving my sight at 70 meters I get the same effect but grouping in the 5-6 then at 50 and 30 and indeed all my distances under 50 meters I group in the gold.

I beleive that this is due to my button being to soft, so am I rite in assuming that if I increase my button tension that my groups will become more centred at longer distances?
Are you shooting left or right handed?
For a right hand archer rightward moving groups as the distance increases may indicate that you need to stiffen the button or move it so the arrow is further from the handle. But that assumes that everything else is properly set up (limbs/string/sight) and that there are no causes in your form/execution of the shot.

Basically, tuning is the last bit you look at. Though it can't hurt to have someone cast an eye over your kit and verify that it's not obviously out of the normal parameters.
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Old 03-06-08, 10:40 AM
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To answer questions, yes I am right handed, my bows centre shot and limb alinement are set up correctly and I can move my sight any more in than it is without the pin being outside the bows sight window, I think tuning the button may be my only option here, oh also I doubt its my form because im grouping right, it isent a few stray arrows.....
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Old 03-06-08, 10:58 AM
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Unless you're torquing very consistently, I agree that it's most likely to be the pressure button. You could check that your sight track's parallel to the string too, but that probably wouldn't have such a large effect.
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Old 03-06-08, 11:42 AM
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Sight and your centre shot seem to be the obvious answer.

If after checking your sight and Centre shot you still have the problem ask someone at you club to check you head position at the distances you have mentioned it would be better if they could video you. I have seen before a difference in a persons head position at long distances, which caused very similar effects.
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Old 03-06-08, 03:17 PM
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if your groups are consistant and get smaller as you come closer then. dont touch nothing till you've checked your sight bar alignment
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