Bent Arm -Ladies

[Little Miss Purple]

I guess everyone must have bad / poor technique then as there isn't a queue of archers shooting 1440!

[ASW1973]

Originally Posted by Little Miss Purple

I guess everyone must have bad / poor technique then as there isn't a queue of archers shooting 1440!

This is is one of the most fatuous and pointless arguments I have ever seen on this board!

The lack of a 1440 is due to inherent innacuracies in the human behind the bow not a lack of applied technique. and put a bow in a test bed and shoot it in a climate controlled range and the weeknesses that prevent perfection are kit based as the machine has essentially perfect technique.

[EVC]

Originally Posted by ASW1973

IT IS WRONG/BAD TECHNIQUE!

Could you please elaborate?

BTW, I used to shot using side anchor but I no longer do it.



Elder.

[Zippo]

I would also like to know why having a side anchor is bad technique. I use a side anchor and have never been told its a bad technique. Tons of people here also use side anchors, but then again, none of us here are comparable to the best archers. Maybe you could enlighten us?

[ASW1973]

if you search on side anchor you will see what has been said before read that and then if anything is not covered get back to me

[Exarcher]

Originally Posted by ASW1973

the first and second pictures show archers with side anchors. This is very bad form making alignment difficult. look up previous threads and dont post a picture of petterson going look at him because he is the only one to get away with it

The side anchor might not be one you advocate, but surely your quote should be preceded by 'IMHO'.
Some huge scores have been acheived with the side anchor, not just by Magnus. It might not be in vogue at the moment, but it is not 'wrong' or 'bad'.

[chemistry]

My perspective, as an average club archer.

I think the term side anchor can be confusing. In the interests of achieving 'good alignment' I used to have a 'side anchor', drawing the string past the front of my chin until it ended up about 2cm along my jaw. On release this meant the string had to push past a little of my chin, on it's way down my jaw line.

I used to get quite a few 'unexplained' flyers.

Then I read the thread regarding side anchors and then did some further research (Total Archery, looked at top archers' anchors, etc.). I looked at my technique and decided to change. I did lots of thinking/videoing/reading to sort this out and asked the advice of one of the better archers in the club, who critiqued my new form.

I now (several months on) pull the string to the centre of my nose and side of the front of my chin, but NOT round to along the side of the jaw line i.e. in release it can move forwards without any part of the face being in the way. The issue of alignment has been addressed by better rotation/position of the drawing shoulder; my former side anchor was just a way of cheating my way to an approximation of better alignment (as opposed to actually being properly in line)

Some would still consider this a 'side anchor', as it's to the side of the centre of my chin. Crucially though, it doesn't extend round the side and along the jaw, so string path at release is unobstructed.

Result, I don't have (nearly so many!) unexplained flyers any more. The difference has been quite dramatic.

All this is just IMHO. The advice in the side anchor thread made sense when I read it and when put into practice it worked for me.

chemistry

[Zippo]

Now I'm slightly confused. What exactly is a side anchor? Does centre of nose, side of chin count as a side anchor? Or do you mean side of nose, side of chin?

[chemistry]

Originally Posted by Zippo

Now I'm slightly confused. What exactly is a side anchor? Does centre of nose, side of chin count as a side anchor? Or do you mean side of nose, side of chin?

As I understand it, a side anchor is where the string goes past the front of the chin and ends up somewhere along the side jawline (i.e. moving back towards the neck).

An anchor where the string touches the centre of the nose (optional) and side of the front of the chin, isn't a side anchor, strictly speaking.

The key difference is that in the former, the string has to slide along and past the jaw/chin, which can cause inconsistencies. In teh latter, the string can move forward on release unobstructed.

Search for other threads on this - a lot has been written on side anchors, and by peopel who shoot to a much higher standrd than I do.

chemistry

[ZolcsiBB]

I don't know much about shooting form (I don't even have a coach...), so I can be false, but I think you mix two things:
1. This:
Dutchtarget.com - 2007 WORLDCUP ANTALYA, TURKEY/IMG 1907
Dutchtarget.com - 2007 WORLDCUP ANTALYA, TURKEY/IMG 1917
These pictures look very good, and many recurve archery anchor like them.


2. And what the bent arm girls do on the pictures above, especially the second one.
As I can see, her anchor point is floating, she should pull both the string and her hand closer to her face, to gain a more consistent anchor. Just touching the face/neck with the thumb is very hard to repeat every time the same way. As I experienced, I can do anchoring more consistant if I pull the the string and my hand into my face. I try to use points on my hand as close to the string as possible. (Point and upper edge of index finger, upper part of hand)


(((bit OFF: There are methods, when you get on better with a higher side anchor, especially at close distances. I mean the unsighted divisions in field, 3D and historical archery. You aim with the point of the arrow, so it's better to have the pile near the target. I think it's harder to find a good anchor that high, but there are good examples, when archers shoot amazing scores with these methods.
http://www.fieldarcher.org/gallery/a..._Kakas_001.jpg

So, barebow archers truly try to use higher side anchors, but not floating anchors. Mine looks like this:
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