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Old 07-07-08, 07:02 PM
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Just think how well you would shoot if you used one! {can't find a 'tongue in cheek' smilie}
Maybe I would not shoot better with one ?

Maybe I am happy shooting without one?

I see and here of too many people thinking they have to use a clicker to shoot well and far too many not using one correctly, Archers were scorring very very high scores before clickers were invented so if they were the miricle cure I here so many promoting them as why o why have we not got 4 or 5 times as many GMB archers ?
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Old 08-07-08, 11:18 PM
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Maybe I would not shoot better with one ?

Maybe I am happy shooting without one?

I see and here of too many people thinking they have to use a clicker to shoot well and far too many not using one correctly, Archers were scorring very very high scores before clickers were invented so if they were the miricle cure I here so many promoting them as why o why have we not got 4 or 5 times as many GMB archers ?
Uh, because they set the MB/GMB levels as a percentage of archers, not an absolute score....?
If you look back at the scores in the days before clickers were widespread (and yes, I know it's not the only difference), you could get GMB for a 1000 York...
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Old 09-07-08, 01:02 AM
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Archers were scorring very very high scores before clickers were invented so if they were the miricle cure I here so many promoting them as why o why have we not got 4 or 5 times as many GMB archers ?
no, no they weren't. Anyone who thinks otherwise has a very low standard on what constitutes a good score.

Please tell me one person who has never used a clicker and shot 1300+ with a recurve.
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Old 09-07-08, 04:49 AM
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I can't believe I'm the only one in our club with a clicker!!
well in my opinion,
use it and learn to use it properly
forget everyone else who does not have one
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Old 09-07-08, 11:57 AM
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Clicker or no clicker thats the question.
I say each to their own.

If you like using a clicker and shoot better scores with it, thats what we are all trying to do.......score more points.
If your happy to do without a clicker when shooting......recurve target and you are shooting the best archery you can thats fine as well.

As an aside, those of us who can shoot with a clicker and have gained from the metal springy thing, appreciate the benefits, such as improved consistancy.

Speed one thing I will ask though. Have you tried using one?
If not, it may be worth trying. If you have used one. What happened to make you stop using it. (Clickeritus)?
Most of the recurve archers at our club use the clicker to good effect including some of the more recent newbies who are shooting quite good scores at 50-60-80 yards.
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Old 09-07-08, 08:15 PM
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re clicker usage

excerpt from


ARCHERY FOR ALL by Daniel Roberts published by David and Charles 1976

ISBN 0715371894

page 40


" There is no point in being to facetious about it, because many excellent archers use it. However, even the makers themselves state it should only be used only to cure inconsistant draw-length or gold shyness ( see chapter 4) and then abandonded.




Looks like clicker function has changed from the manufacturers original design usage LoL.



lastley D.Pace won Olympic gold with a score of 1307 in 1976 but to be fair I do not know if he did or didn't use a clicker maybe one of you knows.
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Old 09-07-08, 08:28 PM
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And before I get flamed yet again I am trying to show that it is not a requirement that you have! to use a clicker to shoot high scores yes it will help some attain higher scores but yet others can! attain them scores without using a clicker.
It is a personal choice for each individual archer unless the usage is to try and help cure a problem such as inconsistant draw length.

But are people honestly saying that no top archer has a good enough technique to give them a consistant draw length?
They can release the same each shot they can set thier body position the same each shot but they do not have the ability to anchor at the same point etc.

Come on I am not trying to get everyone to ditch the clicker but should we honestly be telling everyone thy have to use one or they will never shoot high scores.
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Old 09-07-08, 09:04 PM
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Question still stands Steve. I'm just inquisitive as to why thats all.
Not trying to prove anything....... No hidden traps or

Wanshu asked Speed one thing I will ask though. Have you tried using one?
If not, it may be worth trying. If you have used one. What happened to make you stop using it. (Clickeritus)?
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Old 09-07-08, 09:23 PM
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Question still stands Steve. I'm just inquisitive as to why thats all.
Not trying to prove anything....... No hidden traps or

Wanshu asked Speed one thing I will ask though. Have you tried using one?
If not, it may be worth trying. If you have used one. What happened to make you stop using it. (Clickeritus)?

No I haven't because when I had a certian archer going on at me that I HAD to use a clicker or I would never be able to shoot consistantly at 90m I was grouping the arrows very nicely vertically in fact on that very end I placed six arrows at 6 o'clock within approx 2 inches spread in height stradling the 9-8 line and I still hold that if you work on a consistant anchor and posture ie you extend your bow arm the same each shot you position your head the same each shot anchor at the same point etc just how inconsistant can your draw length be?
After all formula one drivers can drive at the side of a wall50-60 times in a race at 200mph and not crash , a tennis player can hit the ball right along the line at over 100mph are we saying top athletes or even reasonably good athletes who take up archery loose that ability? Because how many sports do we all know were muscle memory is important and were reflexes count?

And how many archers do we all know who use a clicker wrong? For example they creep after the clicker goes off before releasing or they even collapse before release. A clicker used right WILL help consistancy of draw length but only if your draw length is not consistant.
People need to see that there is no miracle cure to bad form only practise and good coaching/advise and that the use of a clicker is an option not a requirement.
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Old 10-07-08, 12:55 PM
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just how inconsistant can your draw length be?
About 1" when i started.About a 1/8-1/4" now(after 1 years shooting).

This obviously affects vertical spread of arrows but one thing i've noticed missing from the majority of clicker threads(as this seems to have turned into) is that a variance in draw length makes it harder to select correct arrow spine.Because i don't use a clicker yet i still use big fat a/c/c arrows that are probably too long.I feel that i have to get on the clicker before i buy a/c/e arrows.
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