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Old 05-06-05, 02:49 AM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?



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Greyghost - 4/6/2005 6:12 PM# I've shot with 36lb limbs during the indoor season, which was fine, but I've got to a stage where I am ready to shoot Yorks/FITA. I've found that the limbs I've got, with my sight set up, I wasn't able to reach 100 yds without aiming 5 feet over the top of the target.
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If 36lb limbs won't reach 100 yds, what weight limbs would everyone suggest to comfortably reach the distance and would it be too much of a step to jump from the 34 lb limbs i'm using now ???</p>
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Old 05-06-05, 03:46 AM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

I think it's dependent on your draw length to some degree.

Obviously the limb weight is 34lbs @ 28" but if you are drawing 29" plus, you could be drawing over the marked weight of the limb.

I have been told limbs in the high 30's should be able to reach 100yds, but because I've got a short draw length I'll probably need 40lbs limbs.

Also lighter arrows might help reach the longer distances too however these might be affected more by any wind present.
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Old 05-06-05, 05:37 AM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

Hiya,
My problem was that because of the length of my arrows, I had to use an extender clicker i.e. one that fits onto the extension bar of my sight. So I couldn't bring my sight in close enough without losing the use of my clicker. There is no doubt that 36lb will propel an arrow (ACC's in my case) over 100yds (it may collect a bit of ice as comes back through the stratosphere). There ware 2 solutions to this. Firstly was to crank the bow up, so I have my 36lb limbs working as 40lb limbs and secondly was to drop the finger spacer of my A&F tab so the platform is as high as possible and pack the space between the top of my finger and the underside of the platform. Both these solutions work absolutely fine and I can shoot 90mtrs/100 yds without having to move my extension bar in or with the sight pin interfering with my arrows on release.
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Old 05-06-05, 02:50 PM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

Greyghost, can you not cut the arrows slightly shorter.

I thought it was good to have as short arrows as possible. I see some archers whose point are only a couple cm (if that) beyond their arrow rest.

This will give you a slightly lighter arrow and a stiffer arrow also for your heavier poundage you now use.
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Old 05-06-05, 04:57 PM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

I did hear Don Rabska say that if the front node is too close to, or, behind the plunger the bow can give a left right accuracy problem.
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Old 05-06-05, 06:03 PM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

Hiya Kinkychinky,
I must admit, I was measured up for my new ACCs a couple of months ago and I thought they were a bit long at the time. I have been shooting longer XX75's indoors during the winter season with out a clicker so I would have thought my draw length would have settled down. I found that the "blade" type clickers wouldn't quite reach, so hence the extender clicker. I am quite happy with my set up now that another club member spent a couple of hours with me helping me tune my bow with the new set up. The only trouble with an extender clicker is that if you have to move your sight in or out, the clicker has to move, but I have my sight set so I can shoot all but the shorter distances with out any major surgery other than moving the pin up and down.
As a beginner with just 6 months experience, you somehow don't feel right questioning the experience of the people supplying my kit. Hopefully I will be completely up-grading my kit for next years outdoor season, at least at that point I will know a bit more about the sport and know whether something looks right or not.
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Old 05-06-05, 11:36 PM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

Greyghost,

when you upped the poundage on your Agulla, did you notice how they were done?

I've got what could be construed as an instruction leaflet for mine, but it only mentions adjusting the upper limb.

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Old 06-06-05, 03:47 AM
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

Hi Kinkychinky,
With the Agulla, the poundage can be increased by upto 10%. I did watch, but it went over my head a bit. The simple part of it is that it is adjusted by the hex key screws at the back of the riser. The bad bit about it is that there is a lot more to it than that. Each of the limbs has to be balanced and the limb alignment possibly altered and certainly checked. It is a job best done by an experiemced bow technician.
Sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

The way to get 100 yards with 34 lbs draw is to use light, thin arrows i.e Navigators or ACE.

Any reasonable club archer should be able to adjust draw weight, check limb alignment and tiller. You just have to ask.
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RE: Newbie: When to upgrade draw weight?

When I was looking for a clicker, I didn't like the look of the type that fit on the sight mount, so I bought a Beiter "blade" type clicker and an A&F extender plate. They're available from Quicks for £2.30 and they stick on the front of the bow giving an extra inch or so for the clicker. Similar idea to the extender plates that are fitted to Win & Win risers.
It's also drilled at the top and comes with a bolt to attach the clicker so it's not at too acute an angle. Works well and it's nice and neat.

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