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Old 15-06-06, 10:50 AM
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Question Which would you go for, and why?

So, here's the thing. I'm currently shooting a win and win evolution one. However, having got my first class and looking on to getting my bowman, I now need to shoot at 80yds. Current poundage is just too low to do that - arrows will reach 80 but won't group for toffee. I already use fastflight, ACC's and micropore nocking points. Limbs are wound in as far as possible, and can't be replaced as Evo 1 limbs aren't international fit.

So, I need a new bow. But I'm on a budget - 360 pounds for limbs+riser. I'm pretty sure I'll be going for the SF carbon limbs, but am not sure about which riser around the 180 mark is best.

What would you choose and why out of these (listed in no particular order)?

Spigarelli Revolution
Seb Flute
Winact
Hoyt eclipse

(Oh, and a bit of context. Draw length is 24", I'm LH. Current portsmouth score around the 530 mark, windsor pb 834, albion 616 .Current poundage is 33lb limbs, but only 28 on the fingers. But I can hold that for ages so I don't think heavier limbs will be too much of a trial )

And also, what do you reckon a second hand evo 1 should be sold for?
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Old 15-06-06, 11:09 AM
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Riser: 25" Win&Win NX Xpert
Limbs: 38# Medium W&W Winex
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Spigarelli Revolution - Don't know. Looks like too much to go wrong, so many other good risers, so I'd leave this one be.

Seb Flute - Yes. Light, feels good in the hand. Looks good, shoots sweet.

Winact - Yes. Light, feels good in the hand. Looks good, shoots sweet.

Hoyt eclipse - No. Feels "cheap" somehow and I personally dislike the tec bridge.

All IMHO of course... YMMV!
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Old 15-06-06, 11:44 AM
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Riser: W&W Exfeel
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On the Revolution...

one of my clubmates has recently had one the bolts holding the whole thing together shear. The bow has been back to either the supplier or manufacturer and it's still there after a month or two.

I understand from chatting to joelondon who has one that this was common on the earlier models and that the later ones had this rectified. If I were in the market for a new riser now, I would consider one.

They are nice looking bows, I wonder if the 3 part design allows the riser to act to some degree as a leaf spring.

on the other bows...

the SF seems to be very popular as do the limbs, being that it's not one of the big brands there is probably a good reason for this.

I have a feeling that numpty has a Winact (might be a winstar), that his was thinking of selling...could save you a £ or two.

On the subject of the evo....

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Win-Win-Evolut...QQcmdZViewItem

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Old 15-06-06, 11:45 AM
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I would be tempted by the Seb Flute, can you get a them in left hand though?
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Old 15-06-06, 11:46 AM
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I would be tempted by the Seb Flute, can you get a them in left hand though?
according to the Alt services web site.. yes

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Old 15-06-06, 11:47 AM
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I'd definitely go for the Winact out of those. The SF is apparently good but very noisy. The Eclipse feels a bit odd to me (perhaps because it's so light). The Spig -- well, you'll spend more time answering daft questions about the bow than actually shooting it.

The Evo -- maybe £50.
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Old 15-06-06, 11:55 AM
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Limbs: Hoyt Matrix Blue Fusion with G3 Limbs
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One benefit of the WinAct over the SF is that the current WinActs have an anodised finish, so aren't prone to paint chips the way the SF riser would be.
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Old 15-06-06, 12:05 PM
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It's all a matter of opinion ultimately, but I've got an Eclipse and I love it. It feels nice in the hand, the grip is excellent, and doesnt feel too heavy to hold for long periods.

I've got Samick Univ's on it, at about 36lbs on the fingers (29" draw) and everything about it feels right. When I bought it I was only able to compare against the Samick Agulla, and they were poles apart IMHO.

Others dont seem to like the bridge part of the riser, but I think it adds some element of stability and backweight to the bow - as and when I eventually move onto a better bow, I'll definitely be looking at another Hoyt with the bridge, such as an Aerotec or Helix. It's in the right ballpark for your budget too - £140 for the riser, and about £170 for SF carbon limbs.
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Old 15-06-06, 12:07 PM
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Probably the Eclipse because the grip is like my beloved Helix, although I'd also try the SF riser.

As for limbs, I'd go for the smoothest at my draw length, but having a 31"+ draw that's very important for me. You'd be fine with a 24in draw on pretty much any limb.
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Old 15-06-06, 12:08 PM
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the SF seems to be very popular as do the limbs, being that it's not one of the big brands there is probably a good reason for this.
From the SF website, it would appear that the SF riser is made by W&W. It certainly uses their forging technology. W&W did buy up Yamaha's forging technology when Yamaha got out of the archery business.

http://www.sf-archery.com/en/riser.html
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