delamination of a limb

[Robbie Robinson]

About 100mm down from the location dowel, where the thickest laminate fades out and where you put the limb saver. All three sets I have seen went in the same place.

Robbie

[Craig P]

Was unfortunate to have limb delaminate myself friday 30th june
mine was top limb Petron S3 Carbon 68" 42#
2 layers of laminate from belly of bow delaminated 2/3 length from pocket end to tip, caused limb to pop out of universal pocket when loosed and ended up with a very lop sided bow when reinserted.
As per previouse posts looking for replacements but interested in any more delamination iunfo before i fork out for more limbs.
Lost my first set of challengers to a strip delamination on lower limb, bow drawn back to chin strip poking out from front of bow scary.

[WhitehartFB]

I know of 3 sets of G3's this year, the latest being 18 months old. The early Win & Win XQ1's had a problem with the bonding process but the new 2006 limbs were re engineered to fix this problem.

Interesting point about the heat but... I thought all these synthetic limbs were sold on the principle that they work equally as well under extreme heat or cold. Apreciate that a car can get very hot but these limbs are also shot in the heat of Arizona.

Suggest that if the limbs are less than 12 months old speak to or visit the dealer you bought them from otherwise go direct to the manufacturer like the case with Win & Win if there are enough problems they will do something about it.

[Rik]

I don't know the details of the XQ1 problems, just that there were a lot of reports before they were (abruptly) replaced by the next generation of W&W limbs. The Synerzy's... I've heard scuttlebutt about problems, but not enough to really make a case. I think they changed the design part way through the lifespan of the limb - old ones had a layer of Ti which was taken out in the later models - because of issues with the lamination, but that's just rumour... Two different sorts of issue I think - the XQ1s either gave way rapidly, or were good, while I suspect the Synerzys might have a limited lifespan.

Trouble is, You've both been shooting them a fair while, so I can see a mfr/retailer saying 'not a defect, wear and tear' and after 6 months use, you would have to prove it was a defect. Might be worth contacting W&W to ask though. It might be worth the PR to them, to do something for you.

Originally Posted by scotstoxo

Hrmmm that is indeed a first for me, Ive never heard of limbs delaminating,

Take a look at the BUSA thread, for some nice pics of a delamination... A plain delam doesn't happen as often as a crack and delam, I think.

[Robbie Robinson]

Hi Rik,

The retailer has replied to me tonight and has been more sypathetic than I expected, has promised to contact W+W to see what might be done. If I get a result I will certainly name names.

[Stretch]

Never assume that you fully understand the trading standards regulations. Manufacturers warranty periods mean nothing if there is a manufacturing defect and the goods are not suitable for the purpose for which they were sold.

If you don't get the result you want get some advice!

Good luck

Stretch

[Beats]

Steves limbs were Winex (40lbs).

Beats

[Robbie Robinson]

Just in case anyone is reading this thread still. I wanted to report that the retailer that supplied the original W&W Synerzy limbs that failed, were more than helpfull. Although the limbs were well out of warranty they took a responsible view and offered a deal that was well in excess of anything I had expected or hoped.

I don't want to go in to detail but it's enough to say they will have 100% of my custom in future - It was Bowsports, and I publicly want to thank Nick Aston for his help and advice.

Robbie

[Pauly]

I would be interested if anyone has come across this problem. My son shoots a KAP Surprise Bow with KAP Pro style limbs. When he was shooting at our club a 4cm splinter detatched from the edge of the lower limb near the tip and hooked itself into his thigh. The limbs are only 5 months old and will have fired no more than 2000 arrows. They have not been left in a hot car and are kept in their original wrappers in a case.

I would be interested to know if anyone has come across anything similar.

[Random_guy]

The surprise limbs are well known for going 'surprise!!!!' and delaminating. London Archers have had loads delaminate over the course of last year and this year.