Arrows again!!!!!

[cestria]

Hi Folks

I'm looking for a straight path through the minefield of arrow selection. Can you help? I'm a novice archer who at present is shooting solid 3rd class scores. I realise that my kit is OK but is not the best match in the world, so if I am going to get much better I'm going to have to start spending some money on new stuff.

At present I have a Hoyt Gold Medalist with 68" 32lb carbon limbs (which I wish to stick with for a while at least) basic button, which is OK, an Apollo long rod which is great, and a sight I can use. It is my arrows, which don't fit.

I have an idea of what I want (31" Easton ACC 3-28). The problem is I have read all kinds of useful and not so useful posts on AI and now am not so sure if I am going to do the right thing.

If I have made a good choice with this shaft how do you work out which is the best point system to use, Nibbs, parabolic, two piece.

Guidance required please

[simon m]

I assume intially you based your shaft selection on your draw length plus 2inches (easton recommended) and on your poundage you hold on your fingers not whats written on the bow?.

If this is the case then point weight will affect the arrow bend when taking a shot, as for types of pile I haven't really done loads of reading on the subject and await more proficient archers comments with interest

Originally Posted by cestria

Hi Folks

I'm looking for a straight path through the minefield of arrow selection. Can you help? I'm a novice archer who at present is shooting solid 3rd class scores. I realise that my kit is OK but is not the best match in the world, so if I am going to get much better I'm going to have to start spending some money on new stuff.

At present I have a Hoyt Gold Medalist with 68" 32lb carbon limbs (which I wish to stick with for a while at least) basic button, which is OK, an Apollo long rod which is great, and a sight I can use. It is my arrows, which don't fit.

I have an idea of what I want (31" Easton ACC 3-28). The problem is I have read all kinds of useful and not so useful posts on AI and now am not so sure if I am going to do the right thing.

If I have made a good choice with this shaft how do you work out which is the best point system to use, Nibbs, parabolic, two piece.

Guidance required please

Hi Cestria,

A bit more info on your draw length would be usefull. I'm going to assume you have a DL of about 30". According to the Easton spine charts you need either ACC 3L-18 or 3-18's. 3-28's I suspect would be way too stiff as you would need at least 41lb's on your fingers to tune them. I guess you have about 36-37lb on your fingers.

With regards to the points, you are limited to nibbs only on the ACC.

As a Novice archer I would not consider shooting too far just yet, stick with 60 yds until you can group well in the red/gold on a consistent basis. A good set of well matched ali arrows will serve you well here. Why not consider some 1916 or 2016 XX75's? Cheaper option for now. When you do progress onto carbon arrows side step the ACC's and buy some Navigators or ACE's

[cestria]

Hi Simon M

I determined the length by, using a long arrow and getting my better half to put marks where the button and going approx 1-1.5" longer. Weight I went for was the poundage of the limbs. I have asked this question and I have had different opinions as to the correct way to interpret the Easton chart. If you look on the chart is says for recurve bows, BOW WEIGHT, finger release, then use the chart’s columns to increase arrow strength according the draw length.

But there is another train of thought that says to calculate draw weight by adding poundage to the bow’s weight by 2lb/” over the standard 28” (this makes my 32lb bow approx 38lb).

As I said earlier I’m just a novice so need help or therapy.

Regards

Originally Posted by cestria

Hi Simon M

I determined the length by, using a long arrow and getting my better half to put marks where the button and going approx 1-1.5" longer. Weight I went for was the poundage of the limbs. I have asked this question and I have had different opinions as to the correct way to interpret the Easton chart. If you look on the chart is says for recurve bows, BOW WEIGHT, finger release, then use the chart’s columns to increase arrow strength according the draw length.

But there is another train of thought that says to calculate draw weight by adding poundage to the bow’s weight by 2lb/” over the standard 28” (this makes my 32lb bow approx 38lb).

As I said earlier I’m just a novice so need help or therapy.

Regards

Ah, my mistake, I forgot to figure in the 1" of extra arrow length. If you are shooting 31" arrows with 38 lb on your fingers then you are spot on, well as a starting point anyway. 3-28's are a good start.

[simon m]

Right

Borrow a bowscale off a club member.

Draw up an arrow in the normal way and get your assistant to mark centre of button.

Now draw up with the bowscale where your tab would be and pull all the way to your mark/centre of button. The bowscale will now tell you what you hold on your fingers. Do this several times to be sure.

I will assume your 68" 32 is 32lbs at 28" draw length in which case your holding over 32lbs cause your draw must be 29 1/2" ish?

[SLOWHAND]

Which club do you shoot at? Knowing the Tyneside/Durham lot there are some good archers there who will be pleased to give you help and advice. The easiest thing would to drive down to CBA'S shop in Guisborough where they will soon sort you out and tune the arrows to the bow if you ask them nicely.

Originally Posted by SLOWHAND

The easiest thing would to drive down to CBA'S shop in Guisborough where they will soon sort you out and tune the arrows to the bow if you ask them nicely.

Very good plan. Without seeing your setup, we can but guess on here, an archery shop will be more accurate with their advice.

[cestria]

Hi Slowhand
Thanks for the reply, I'm in Riverside, great club, friendly peolpe lots of advise. I'm was going to CBA on Saturday but thought I would go with some ideas. Regards Ian

[TJ Mason]

Originally Posted by rgsphoto

With regards to the points, you are limited to nibbs only on the ACC.

They're actually one-piece parabolic points (though they LOOK like nibbs). Available in 100, 80 70, 60 or 50 grain.