Paper test

[cliveanne]

My Good Lady & I ran a paper test this morning, any ideas on the probem? Please
Bow:KG Kudos, Limbs: Multi axial carbon 66" 30@28 Arrows: ACC's 3.00 1150 24 1/2" with 60grain points "G" nocks, EP16 vanes Draw length 24" (To back of bow) no clicker
Distance from "Shootng line" to paper: app' 6'6"
I think that's about it. If you need more info' let me know.
Thanks in advance.

Forgot ...Right hand archer

[JohnK]

To quote Steve Hallard, "the only thing I use paper for is eating my chips off."

Seriously though, paper tuning is of very limited used for recurve archers, and some would even argue for compound. Head over to www.texasarchery.org and look up Rick Stonebraker's Tuning for Tens document. It includes a short section on paper tuning with a rigid button, but it also stresses that you can't expect bullet holes from a recurve bow.

Good luck

[Tarkwin]

try looking at centreshot or button pressure....

T.

I agree with John on this one. Paper testing with a recurve is pointless. Archers paradox will give paper tears all over the place, depending on how far away you place the paper. No conclusion can be gained doing this. If you read about doing this in a book, burn it.

[GeoffT]

A paper test with a recurve is about as useful as a bareshaft test with a compound, or a chocolate teapot.

If you are good enough to shoot reasonable groups at 50yds then try a walkback, otherwise just get someone to see if the arrows fly OK.

Remember, a good archer with a badly tunied bow will always beat a poor archer with perfectly tuned kit.

[geoffretired]

I agree with what has been said but would add that torquing the bow can have a lot of effect on the paper test results. You may never get the bullet hole from a recurve, but you may get a smaller tear by changing the way you place your hand in the grip. Try moving the thumb further forwards on some shots, then try it further back and see if there is a "best" position that is repeatable.

[Leighton]

The problem with paper testing a recurve is that you will always have the archer's paradox which will bend the arrow horizontally and the arrow will keep bending until it hits the target. Subsequently, the only way to get a bullet hole in the paper is to position the paper at the correct distance so that when the arrow hits the paper, the paradox is in it's "straight" position, ie the arrow is straight, not bent. Even then, you might get a small tear. But either case, you can see that the paper test doesn't produce any real results as all you did was move your distance or adjust your bow to that distance.

Bare shafts work best in short.

[2112]

Cliveanne
The result you show if you are right handed is stiff.
increase bow weight ,heavier pile ,lighter bow string, decrease spring tension.

Originally Posted by 2112

Cliveanne
The result you show if you are right handed is stiff.
increase bow weight ,heavier pile ,lighter bow string, decrease spring tension.

No way can you come to that conclusion from a paper tear. have you read all of the above replies?

[Murray]

Agree with the most - no point in papertuning a recurve, except for nock height (in this respect you appear to be sorted). It does seem fairly far over though, even for a "paradox tear", so I'd go to 10m, 20m and 30m and shoot 3 or 4 fletched and 2 bareshaft and come back with your results.