Help - advice needed!

[Witchie Poo Cat]

Hi Guys

I wonder if you can help. As you all know I ordered some limbs from Alternative that were faulty. They have received the limbs back and have sent out limbs which have been "corrected and now fit a range of risers from our stock". This sounds to me like they have modified them in some way to make them fit.

Im new to archery so need reassurance. Am I right in thinking that if they have modified these limbs then it could affect their performance? Also, under law do i have a right to demand brand new replacements if it turns out these are the same limbs?

i have emailed them to clarify and make it clear that "corrected" limbs are unacceptable so am waiting for a reply. Any advice in the meantime much appreciated.

Incidentally, lesson learned, no more purchasing from Alternative, wrists duly smacked

Witchie Poo Cat

[GreenSteve]

if you have the replacement limbs
firstly put your bow together and string it up
check the bracing height and tiller
also check the bend of the limbs is the same on both limbs
if all seems ok, next you`ll want to check limb alignment
one method i was shown to check this is place a ruler under the string against the limbs at each end both rulers should produce the same angle

that may help you to start with and i`m sure others will add more and prob better advice soon

[Thunk]

They have received the limbs back and have sent out limbs which have been "corrected and now fit a range of risers from our stock". This sounds to me like they have modified them in some way to make them fit.

It sounds as though the limb tongues, the part which enters the riser, were fractionally too wide to start with. I would guess that the tongues have been planed down to fit, and speaking personally I wouldn't expect that to affect their performance or safety - but others may not agree!

Best course of action - take them along to your club and ask a couple of experienced archers for their opinion. One really needs to see the modification before reaching any definitive conclusion.

Also, under law do i have a right to demand brand new replacements if it turns out these are the same limbs?

Not sure on this - any lawyers out there?

[Witchie Poo Cat]

Hi guys

thanks for the replies. having checked trading standards it seems I am fully covered under the appropriate distance selling regulations so i have something to fall back on (although after just reading the alt sports reviews i dont think i will get anywhere).

The limbs have only been posted today so hopefully will arrive tomorrow or monday and I can take them down to the club on Monday. Problem is my lovely coach works at archery world and as soon as I mentioned that last time he just said "send them back they will be no good" so not sure if i will get an unbiased assessment!! lol

No email back from alternative yet so still waiting. if the adjustment isnt likely to hinder performance then its probably ok, its just the principle of it really niggling me now!

[Witchie Poo Cat]

Ok, just received a rather polite reply to my email (am still picking myself up off the floor!) as follows...

"The only probelm was the spring in the detent was getting coilbound. We swapped these for other Samick Springs and the problem is solved.

There has been no structural change to the limbs."

My coach did actually suggest this was the problem so fingers crossed they will fit now!

[GreenSteve]

you should really be getting a completely different set of limbs tbh
it`s not good customer service to "modify" a faulty mass produced item when all they would need to do is return the item to their supplier

a while back i went to my local archery shop to purchase new limbs, went for hoyt crx limbs put them on bow in shop and spent nearly an hr trying to set up the tiller when someone the other side of the shop noticed 1 limb had a more pronounced curve to it than the other, so all they did was asked me to come back next week as they would need to order some replacement limbs which they did and all was well.

[geoffretired]

WPC, I agree with Thunk. "Corrected" probably means they have removed the varnish/paint that was probably the cause. (This was mentioned in your previous thread) I very much doubt that any change in performance will result. They have reduced the ends to fit, not altered the working section. If they did a very bad job on the ends, you could get the limbs to be too loose a fit. You'll be able to compare that with Hubby's when they arrive.

[JohnK]

If they had planed down the limbs in any way, I'd say you had a case for a brand new set. However, simply replacing the limb detents is not a major issue, and you should be fine once your coach has given them the once over.

[Rik]

I'm with John. If it's just the detents, then no problem. If there was modification to the fabric of the limb, then that's a much different issue.

It's one thing to a DIY mod to a piece of kit but I wouldn't want something a dealer had "corrected" (apart from as above) and supplied as new kit. I would guess that any work like that would void the mfrs warranty, apart from anything else.

[highway-star]

floks, very interesting and informative. As I am getting my new limbs soon, can you please advice what and how to check if every things are ok.