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Old 17-08-06, 08:55 AM
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Is it dying?

Hey everyone,

Yesterday afternoon I went up to the field as I always do, popped a target out at 90 and started to shoot away. Conditions were perfect, no wind, no sun in my eyes, and I was feeling good.

I shot a couple of dozen and then my arrows started to drop straight down the centre of the face, 10, 9, 6, 4, 2, 1. I collected, adjusted my sight and shot again, and again the same thing happened. Lovely horizontal alignment, but every arrow dropping further than the last.

Somewhat frustrated I started to push and pull every part of my bow to check if anything had come loose, and fair enough the sight block where it attaches to the riser had worked loose. With relief of finding something, I tightened this and shot again, but still, my arrows were dropping.

I then got someone to watch my to check my anchor point was solid and I was not dropping the bow, it was confirmed that there was nothing obvious that I was doing wrong.

Fed up with this, I moved the Boss to 60, where I had to move my sight some 10 points lower than the normal mark to get correct alignment, same thing started to happen again, eventually after 2 hours it started to settle down leaving my sight some 15 points lower than usual. In fact it’s lower than where it used to be when I was shooting with ACCs, not my ACEs.

So what are your thoughts? I have recently had a new string, but I check the bracing height and its spot on where it’s supposed to be, I have checked the limbs for any cracks and I can't see any. I am at a loss...

Mike
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Old 17-08-06, 09:01 AM
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Old 17-08-06, 09:03 AM
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How old are you Mike
27...What makes you ask that?
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Old 17-08-06, 09:18 AM
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If you can, check the limb weight - has it suddenly lost power? We experienced the same thing with a junior at an indoor competition last year. She was shooting well but the arrows started dropping - we moved and moved the sight checked her, checked the bow, rest, limbs, rest, tab, arrows, etc etc etc - nothing explained it. I can only assume there was some kind of internal failure in the limbs.
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Old 17-08-06, 09:22 AM
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If you can, check the limb weight - has it suddenly lost power? We experienced the same thing with a junior at an indoor competition last year. She was shooting well but the arrows started dropping - we moved and moved the sight checked her, checked the bow, rest, limbs, rest, tab, arrows, etc etc etc - nothing explained it. I can only assume there was some kind of internal failure in the limbs.
What was your solution for this? I mean did changing the limbs stop the problem?
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Old 17-08-06, 09:25 AM
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I don't know as she wasn't in my club, sorry. A set of bowscales, or a loan of a similar set of limbs should be able to rule out the "loss of power" argument though.
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Old 17-08-06, 09:34 AM
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Yeah unfortunatly I don't have any scales. And cause I shoot a stylist I don't really know that many people who have one that I could borrow some different limbs.

I mean the bows about 10 years old now, but ever so I would be very dissapointed if the limbs are giving in already. I used to have a very old (3rd or 4th hand) Yamaha before this, and the riser snapped before the limbs
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Old 17-08-06, 09:37 AM
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Well, you may be in luck if it's a stylist. I had a older stylist, and found the varnish coming off the limbs - I contacted Steve Lingwood (the maker) and he refinished the limbs free of charge... outstanding commitment to customer service. I'm sure if you contact him he'll be able to give you some advice, or perhaps hire you a set for a week or so to enable you to do a direct comparison?
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Old 17-08-06, 09:40 AM
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Riser: Hoyt Nexus
Limbs: W&W Inno Power
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Stabilisers: Easton ACE
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Bow String: Brownell Excel
Arrows: Easton x10

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Thats a great idea, I might just do that. I mean I would hate to change it, I love the riser and everything, but I do find it annoying that I am commited to buying stylist limbs whilst I use their riser.
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Old 17-08-06, 10:11 AM
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Angry your problem

The reason I ask your age is this. I had the same problem and tried everything to no avail, finally went to see an optician and found I had the start of glaucoma
which can affect your eyes. Arrows did funny things.
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