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Old 05-10-06, 05:02 PM
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Riser: FiberBow
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Lol, I had all that stuff in last night, ticked off my list. I guess this morning was a little bit cloudy . Stabilisation is again confused now - do I get the 68" or 70", and then the 26 or 28" rods.
Will get the larger negrini. List was rough. And a wrist sling
Sorry that was not the intention I just get frustrated when I see people with unsuitable kit(not talking about makes and models), when within their budget they can get the right spec to suit them. With regards to the riser,limbs and stabiliser have you handled and shot any of this stuff by doing so your choice would be a little bit clearer? How was your drawer length measured and was somebody checking that you were not hunched up i.e your form was ok. if measured to the front of bow you might want the arrow length to be an extra0.5"/0.75" so there is at least an inch or more sticking out the front when the point is added to allow for an improvement in form.

Am I right in assuming this is your 1st kit, what does your club coach advise?

In your shoes I would keep it simple first: Riser, Limbs, Hoyt Pro rest, sight, string & nocking points, arm guard, tab, quiver, bow sling and something to keep it in. Next stage, longrod then after that mag rest and button unless you are happy setting them both up then you could get the rest and button at the start.
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Old 05-10-06, 05:35 PM
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Limbs: Seb Flute/Hoyt Epics
Sight: Cartel Championship
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without sounding precocious, I have shot for about a year a while back, and am not beginner beginner, moreso returning half-beginner half-club standard.
My coach advised either hte agulla or the gold medalist, and seeing as neither of them are tragically expensive, if I don't like the Agulla (I tried a gold medalist, and found it a bit thin in the hand), then I can change to something else.
It was measured on the arrow, so I'll go for a 31" just to be doubly safe. And draw procedure was grand.

I shot stabilized at 34# last night, and the stabilizer made a huge difference to my grouping. Granted the arm started to go after a few rounds, as I was compensating for the weight by pulling with half back, half upper arm...but the first rounds went nicely redgoldredgoldbluebluered, and hence I'd like a stabilizer...the bow felt much less kicky to shoot.

Plus I hate waiting. So I'd rathe get the whole hog and have it handy for when I do need it.

sorry

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Old 05-10-06, 07:10 PM
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without sounding precocious, I have shot for about a year a while back, and am not beginner beginner, moreso returning half-beginner half-club standard.
My coach advised either hte agulla or the gold medalist, and seeing as neither of them are tragically expensive, if I don't like the Agulla (I tried a gold medalist, and found it a bit thin in the hand), then I can change to something else.
It was measured on the arrow, so I'll go for a 31" just to be doubly safe. And draw procedure was grand.

I shot stabilized at 34# last night, and the stabilizer made a huge difference to my grouping. Granted the arm started to go after a few rounds, as I was compensating for the weight by pulling with half back, half upper arm...but the first rounds went nicely redgoldredgoldbluebluered, and hence I'd like a stabilizer...the bow felt much less kicky to shoot.

Plus I hate waiting. So I'd rathe get the whole hog and have it handy for when I do need it.

sorry

L
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Old 05-10-06, 11:57 PM
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Goalposts have moved a bit.
Found a set of Winact carbons...go for those instead?
Also, does anyone know the screw fitting types of the Agulla? Presumably being from Korea it'll be metric
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Old 06-10-06, 01:08 AM
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I know that you might not want to hear this but can I say that you may be making a big mistake buying stuff that youv'e never tried either separately or together from a source that is perhaps hundreds of miles away. I assume that you are buying this kit mail order to save a few pounds. At best, the 'system' wont be tuned (how can it be since the archer is part of the system) and at worst it may be totally unsuitable for you.
You dont say where you live, but if you live in Britain it is far better to go to one of the better archery shops where you try out all of the kit first before you buy it and then get it tuned for you. I am sponsored by CBA and I know that Pete in Guisborough spends half his time sorting equipment out for people who have bought kit mail order or even from other dealers, you wouldn't believe how many people are sold kit that is wrong for them or so badly set up it would never shoot well. There are many other set ups at the same price point you are looking at and some of them may suit you far better.
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Old 06-10-06, 01:24 AM
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I've tried a Gold Medalist and a Mizar, which isn't too far removed from an Agulla. As I said earlier, the riser isn't a problem as it's not hilariously expensive.
I live in Ireland...nothing short of Meath (100+miles) and I really just don't have the time to go and shop there etc. The club I arch in is more than full of people who know their stuff about tuning
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Old 06-10-06, 08:56 PM
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Limbs: Bowtech Allegiance
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Slow down Psycho, you're going far too fast!! O.K. you want a bow and your head is full of gear you have seen and heard of from your "coach" Personally, from what he has told you I must disagree, there are far better and cheaper I hasten to add, bows than the ones you mention. O.K. buy on line, who will set it up for you? Buy from a dealer it will be set up and guaranteed. Also, free regular check ups!. For your own good,we've all been there, try to get to a pro shop where you can try different types of bow, limbs etc.etc. You are spending a lot of money,spend it wiseley!!! PLEASE!!
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Old 06-10-06, 09:04 PM
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Arrows: X7 2114

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Bald Eagle - I shot a Mizar with Epics, and liked it a helluva lot. It's not the end of the world if I don't like it, I can just buy another. Sadly in Ireland there are bugger all shops, and no day in the week do I have the time to go up to Dublin and buy stuff. Work and college doesn't permit this to happen. I'm not pressed about hte limbs, hence buying cheap ones, my poundage will increase during hte year and I'll need more for outdoor shooting as well. Also, my friend (same height, build etc) is starting soon, and there the limbs can go, if he pulls around the same as I do.

I don't mean to sound precocious, and I accept your worry but panic not .
I have a club full of archers, and one guy who maintains and sets up the gear for everyone, and in the dire event of him screwing it up - a shop that I can bugger off to in Dublin if I can abscond from lectures .
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Old 06-10-06, 09:19 PM
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Spot on Bald Eagle and Slowhand

So far this week we have had one guy who bought a compound in the US turned up on wed with all the cables and string off basically they sold the kit and then suggested this so that he could get it through customs no mention that he needed a bow press to put it all back together not that he could anyway.

Today another guy turned up with a compound he bought on ebay? asking us to re-serve the string which was unusually built up only to find that 3 strands of the string were broken under the serving!!!

Finally, we have just finished adjusting a compound sold by a sports shop in the UK which we could only get down to 70lbs when he walked in the limb adjusters were so far out it was dangerous and he probably paid £200 over the top for the kit.

I know these are compound examples but they were all this week and I have lost count of the times we have had to set up recurves, what surprises me more is that these people who have bought elsewhere and saved a few quid are surprised when we tell them there is a charge for our time and expertise.

Don't get me started on carbon arrows though...........
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Old 06-10-06, 09:21 PM
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Heh. There's less to go wrong with recurves. I'll bring it to dublin to hell
We have string material, serving stuff, frames for tuning, nocking points and pliers etc
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