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Old 08-11-06, 11:14 AM
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Phatmike10,

If I understnad correctly, this is your first longrod. If that is the case, I doubt that you are going to gain much from the flexability of a Bieter at the moment.

Grab a nice cheap Cartel longrod and get used to the forward weight. When you are shooting well with that, you will be in a better place to judge what you want you kit to feel like in your hand. Ask around people at the club is you can borrow something. You may find someone has something you can try for a few weeks.

When you are good enough to see the change in your grouping at 70m by adjusting the tuner positions, then buy a Bieter.

If you happen to be a MB then ignore the above, try anything you can get your hands on and go shopping.

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Old 08-11-06, 11:19 AM
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Phatmike10, When you say take out one rod to make it lighter, do you mean one of the carbon rods that go end to end? That would reduce the weight by next to nothing but take away much of the stiffness. If you mean the tuners, the bits with holes that the rods run through, you could take one out and reduce weight, but they are not that heavy so I don't think the change would be all that beneficial. The really long ones, with four tuners, are a bit heavier than the shorter ones with three tuners. That's to be expected, but the extra weight is not that great, it is the extra forward balance that is most noticeable.
The safest option is to try them all.
If Beiter is the thing for you; you could get the longest one and move the weights closer to the bow, a little at a time, until you get what you want;what feels right and gives best results.
You could try one, like the 30",and if it is not giving enough forward balance, add weight on the end until you get what you want. Or add an extender.You could move the tuners nearer the bow if it gave too much forward balance, but I think that is unlikely.
I put the three options in order according to the way I operate. I would have to try them all.Not just Beiter.
If the trial was not an option, I would enjoy trying the longest and seeing what I could get out of it with some experimenting. I like experimenting.
Getting the 30" and adding weights or extenders is perhaps the option for someone who doesn't want to experiment too much, so you can use standard parts in different combinations.
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Old 08-11-06, 02:35 PM
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Thanks for the help guys, lots of different views but the one that seems to be constant is to just experiment with different rods. I'll have to ask around at my club to see if anyone will let me borrow some to try. Cheers again.
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Old 09-11-06, 04:46 AM
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I'm not sure about your set up.......not exactly read the entire post

I'm shooting compound, but it will fly for recurve too. I bought mine at 41" (think that's the length), and all the tuners I could get on it. The tuners come off, so you can take one, two, or three off if needed, and the unit can be broken down, and the rods cut off to make a shorter rod if you like. It's only a little more expensive for the longer one, so if you're wrong, you've not lost much. If it's too short, ya gotta buy a new one or an extension.

I only have the one stabilizer on my compound, and no weight. It ballanced it perfectly, so I left it as bought, and I'm glad I got the rig I did.
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