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Old 07-11-06, 04:49 PM
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Beiter Blue Centraliser

I’ve narrowed my options down to a beiter blue centraliser without a doinker as Mr Beiter recons you don’t need one. He also says that you don’t need to add any weights to it.

How do I decide what length I need and how many bars I need (i.e. the 2, 3 or four bar centraliser)? My Bow is a 70” 34Ib Samick Agulla.
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Old 07-11-06, 04:57 PM
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I'm in the middle of this myself. Over the last couple of weeks I've had that many different combos of long, short, top, back rod - with weights, without, doinked or un-doinked on the bow....bottom line is that unless you want to risk getting something less than ideal (and you may never know it) you've got to try as many set-ups as possible. Nice if you can beg or borrow to get a shortlist - saves time at the suppliers.
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Old 07-11-06, 04:57 PM
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I’ve narrowed my options down to a beiter blue centraliser without a doinker as Mr Beiter recons you don’t need one. He also says that you don’t need to add any weights to it.

How do I decide what length I need and how many bars I need (i.e. the 2, 3 or four bar centraliser)? My Bow is a 70” 34Ib Samick Agulla.
I reckon Mr Beiter needs to rethink his stabilisers because they aren't the market leader they used to be, but thats a different matter.

The only way to know, is to shoot them! Stabilisers are very personal,and any opinions you get on here will either be generalisations or what works for that person. Until you try them, you won't know if they work for you or not.

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Old 07-11-06, 05:03 PM
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I bought a huge one off ebay....shhh! and when I have the time will shoot with it, trim it, shoot with it...until I find a length that feels comfortable...

then I will fiddle with the tuners until such time as I get the best results.

Once the longrod is sorted, then I'll have to mess around with shortrods...

tuners are available separately should you decide you need more...Alternative sell them..and others will be able to obtain them too.
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Old 07-11-06, 05:06 PM
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If you've decided on the Beiter then I'd go for the shorter one with two tuners if you're shooting 34lb. The advice I've been given is as you increase the poundage you increase the length of long rod - I'm sure someone will put me right if the advice is wrong
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Old 07-11-06, 05:09 PM
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This sounds like you are going to buy before you try.
I think the number of bars/tuners(is that the blue weights fixed to the four rods?) depends on the length of the rod and that is done for you.
The long rods do what they say without extras like weights or doinkers, however there is some degree of choice that the archer can make.
Putting a weight on the end of a shorter rod, can give a similar balance to a longer rod with no weight. Very long rods seem to me to be clumsy. There can be a tendency to swing from side to side as you draw and then take some time to stop. I would try before you buy, but if that is not an option, I would say that getting a 30" would be better than getting the longest one. If the rod is too long, it can be a pest. If it is a bit short and still a bit light at the front, an extra weight on the end is an easy solution. If the longest one gives too much front weight, then there is the option of rear weights but that can make the bow too heavy in the hand.
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Old 07-11-06, 05:09 PM
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We spent a couple of hours down at Quicks Waterlooville trying various lengths of beiter for Sophie's bow until we found the best one.
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Old 08-11-06, 09:22 AM
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I’m sure some people down at the club have them, I’ll have to see if they will let me try a few. Say nobody has one, If I was to buy the 30” centraliser with the extension part and four rods, is it easily possible to take rods out if it is too heavy?
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Old 08-11-06, 09:30 AM
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I’m sure some people down at the club have them, I’ll have to see if they will let me try a few. Say nobody has one, If I was to buy the 30” centraliser with the extension part and four rods, is it easily possible to take rods out if it is too heavy?
I wouldn't recommend taking out the rods!

Have you thought about length of extender?
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Old 08-11-06, 09:35 AM
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I’m sure some people down at the club have them, I’ll have to see if they will let me try a few. Say nobody has one, If I was to buy the 30” centraliser with the extension part and four rods, is it easily possible to take rods out if it is too heavy?
it is possible...but I wouldn't advise it, aside from anything else you'll lose some of the stiffness and effectiveness of it.

If you are planning to reduce the weight of it, remove a tuner or move the tuner(s) closer to the riser.


If you're not sure about it, don't buy one...try one.

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