portsmouth = york

[caveman]

hi i was wondering if there was someone out there that shoot's score's on a porty around the 570 mark that could tell me what they average on a york round , this might give me some idea what i could expect when i shoot one next season , ive shot a mixed hereford and scored 1005 but could do better now well i hope so .????????????????????????????????????????????????? ????

[Shirt]

Assuming a recurve, and that you're not using X7 outdoors, you're looking for 1050ish.

[Mick]

Don't think you can draw much of a comparison I for one shoot better indoor scores than outdoor. High 570s for a Portsmouth but my PB for a York is only 1007. (been shooting for 7 years)

[Murray]

There are too many factors to make a direct comparison.

Accuracy/tuning at 20y and accuracy/tuning at 100y are very very different beasts. if it's your first foray out to 100y, you might be more realistic aiming at 950+

[Ffish]

Can handicap be used to work this out?

P'mouth 570 is a 27 h'cap.
York h'cap for 27 is 1080 (which is a Master Bowman score).

Not sure they're directly comparable, as distance and tuning plays a major part - anything over 1000 would be impressive.

[caveman]

well i hopeing someone would say 900, because of wind and the distence thing but i was thinking 850 , which would be bowmen i think , which is good made 1st class on heraford this year . thank's

[Kae]

Originally Posted by Ffish

Can handicap be used to work this out?

P'mouth 570 is a 27 h'cap.
York h'cap for 27 is 1080 (which is a Master Bowman score).

Not sure they're directly comparable, as distance and tuning plays a major part - anything over 1000 would be impressive.

In my experience you can't draw a comparison between indoor and outdoor scores, there are just too many variables.
I don't think the outdoor and indoor handicap variables are cross referenceable either. But I could be completley wrong!

Kae.

[PaulT]

For myself, I would expect to shoot above 570 on a Portsmouth and mid to high 1000s on a York.

[WhitehartFB]

Originally Posted by Murray

There are too many factors to make a direct comparison.

Accuracy/tuning at 20y and accuracy/tuning at 100y are very very different beasts. if it's your first foray out to 100y, you might be more realistic aiming at 950+

Many archers can score good rounds indoors, it is a great leveller if your technique is OK - weather, bow poundage and type of arrows have less of an effect.

The handicap tables can be used as reference, but indoors /
outdoors is like chalk and cheese. I see 570 archers struggle to 920 and good archers who dislike the indoor season shooting 545's and outdoors 1090+

Indoors is more intense as you tend to expect high scores and an early poor end messes it up for the whole round so the pressure archers put on themselves to do well is higher. Learning to cope with this is good practice for Head to Heads.

[SLOWHAND]

I agree with everyones comments but lets be positive. 570 plus on a Portsmouth is very good Shooting, some good archers struggle all their life and never make the 570 barrier. This proves that you have good basic technique, you know what your'e doing and your mental approach is right, so providing your gear is suitable for the long distances (more later) and providing the weather is kind, there is no reason why you shouldn't do well in a York. How long have you been shooting? I am surprised that someone who can get a 570 has not been shooting long enough to have done a York.
The two major differences between a York and Portsmouth are the extra demands made on the equipment for the long distances and then we have the weather to contend with. There is no easy solution to shooting in difficult conditions and personally I found this the hardest part of archery to come to grips with, practice, practice, practice is the only real answer.
Regarding your equipment. Indoors you can get away with shooting very modest gear with low draw weights, aluminium arrows etc. Outdoors, in my opinion, you're going to need at least a draw weight 'on the fingers' of 36lb and preferably somewhere around 40lb. You are also going to need carbon/ally arrows, ACC's are a starting point Navigators/Tripples are a better bet and ACE's better still.
Good luck!