V Bar Choice

[panrixx]

Hi all ,

Interested in your individual opinions on the best V Bar for a Recurve bow when using a non-beiter extender and stabilisers.

I know a lot of people go for adjustable ones (e.g. AGF) but wondered if there was merit in using a soild V Bar to eliminate joints, no matter how tight they are adjusted.

It appears that a lot of top archers use a flat V Bar rather than angled - any opinions for/against either?

Lastly, what are the merits of using either a narrow V Bar (e.g. Doinker Billy) or a wide one (Cavalier J-Bar)?

Thanks in advance for any feedback

[Kae]

Obviously the best advantage to an adjustable V-bar is that its just that, you can adjust it! So if your playing with stabiliser positions, you can really manipulate it until your happy.
I use a flat v-bar set to roughly 45 degrees (I think?), which works well for me.

Greatest advantage of a solid v-bar is that they don't go wrong. Nothing to come loose or fall off, however saying that, my AGF hasn't worked loose in 5 years.

Kae.

[geoffretired]

Narrow or wide? Do you mean the angle between the two side rods is narrow or wide?
Depending on the set up you have, it is possible for the narrow set up to make things awkward when resting the bow or raising it. The rod nearest you can be in your way. I would try to borrow an adjustable set to see what would work for you. If that set up then matches one of the fixed designs, you have both options.

[wingate_52]

A narrow angled bar may not be wide enough to get your body in if you nock your arrow with your bow near to your body and not at arms length.

[panrixx]

Originally Posted by wingate_52

A narrow angled bar may not be wide enough to get your body in if you nock your arrow with your bow near to your body and not at arms length.

I'm pretty sure that a 40/45 degree would suit but I was meaning the width of the V Bar. The Cavalier seams to be a lot wider than say, the Doinker 'Billy' Bar. Doinker do a wider V Bar, called the Burley, which I beleive is predominantly designed for attatchment directly to the riser. The narrower 'Billy' is designed to be used on the end of an extender.

So what's the advantage of say the Cavalier J Bar against a narrower (width) model, if used on the end of an extender, or does it make no difference?

[geoffretired]

The wider one might be easier to twist away from level, so might need more putting back into place during a shoot. Other than that it might just allow your body to be comfortable as wingat says, the shorter one may be just too short.
Try before you buy, if you can.

[wingate_52]

My Arten TM4 was set to a wide angle. When I changed to the J-Bar, it has caused me to either lose weight or be more careful on the line.

[N.Vodden]

my stabiliser setup is all cartel with some doinkers recently added. using a straight solid cartel V bar, and love it. I tried different angles when i borrowed an adjustable v bar off another archery prior to buying mine, and angled didnt feel right, ended up practically level. The only problem i ever had was the v bars shaking loose due to vibration, but the doinkers fixed that!

If i was going to change it would still be a 'flat' solid V bar, just a more gucci brand than cartel

[nfinite]

The top end v bar is with out a doubt the AGF.

But It comes at a price ( £42.00 )

Almost all the recurve archers at my club use them and they DO NOT MOVE

if you can afford one then im sure you will not be disapointed, as for others ?

Dont have a clue as all I see are AGF's.

Remember a cheap ajustable v bar coming loose on someones bow at a comp last year but dont know what make it was.

[Russ]

I have a Shibuya Ultima V-bar (GBP 32 at Quicks). It also stays put, is relatively lightweight and has the added benefit of a quick release system. Perhaps a drawback is that it only the vertical angle of the twins can be adjusted, and this only from 0-15 degrees; the horizontal angle between the two twin rods is fixed - 80 degrees, I think.

By comparison, it looks like you can adjust the AGF any way you want - you'll have to decide if it's worth the extra 10 quid!

I do think the adjustable V-bar is a good investment; if I couldn't have adjusted mine, I would likely have had to buy a new longrod and extender to make my setup work. Just as long as you don't continuously tweak & twiddle with it - tempting though it may be, it'll just wreak havoc on your technique.