extra £100 is it worth it?

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Going to be changing my limbs soon to some 40#, and with the increase in poundage I will need some new arrows.
My question, Is it worth paying the extra £100 for a dozen A/C/Es or will I get very similar results with the cheaper A/C/Cs?

Have you used both? Is there that much of a noticeable difference when target shooting?

[Kae]

Originally Posted by !!!

Going to be changing my limbs soon to some 40#, and with the increase in poundage I will need some new arrows.
My question, Is it worth paying the extra £100 for a dozen A/C/Es or will I get very similar results with the cheaper A/C/Cs?

Have you used both? Is there that much of a noticeable difference when target shooting?

Yes I've shot both.

Will you notice the difference? Possibly.

If you can't hit a barn door then the ACE's will help you miss faster.

ACE's are lighter and therefore faster than ACC's which will improve your sight marks. They do however come in matched dozens so replacing individual arrows is not possible (AFAIK).

IF you shoot well, then get the ACE's.
IF your likely to need to replace the arrows in the not to far distant future (breakage or equipment change) then get the ACC's.

They are both good arrows, but the ACC's are more forgiving.

Kae.

[buzz lite beer]

As your a 3rd class archer, there are lots of things to consider upgrading before you got mad on top performance arrows like the ACE, think about it a bit, they won't magically make you more consistent, nor will they instantly get you up to 2nd class or above, the usual and most sensible route is to get to a point where your ability begins to noticeably limited by your equipment then upgrade, and give consideration to faster more stable limbs above arrows every time. Spending £220+ on arrows to shoot from a bow that can't do them justice, consider splitting the difference get a set of Navigators with the £50 you save in arrow choice put that toward your new 40lb limbs and upgrade both at the same time, Navigators can get you MB+ performance if the ability is there.

[wingate_52]

I agree with Buzz. Get Navigators when you get the new limbs. They are good enough.

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Buzz, thanks for the reply, I understand what you are saying but another reason I am looking at upgrading my limbs and at the same time changing my arrows is that the full carbon arrows I use now (Carbon Impact from Merlin, great for my first arrows at £4 each), are not allowed at most of the competitions around this area as they can not be found easily with a metal detector.
I think I can get loads more out of the set up I have now and probably reach first class with it, but am restricted to using it at my own club grounds, and I would like to have a go at a few local competitions.
I only got the third class on 16th March. I have a couple of second class scores in the book and am hoping to get the third one on Tuesday (have only shot 4, outdoor rounds so far (my best was a 504 National)). Then I want to move up to 80yards. I have been told that I would be better to get the A/C/Es as spending money on A/C/C’s then upgrading again would be wasted money for me.
I am still very new to this sport. I only did the beginners course in December, and started shooting at the club in January but have been told that I am progressing reasonably quickly. I shot a Portsmouth PB today with a score of 533, I don’t know if that’s good after only three months of shooting as I don’t have anyone to compare it to.

I just wondered if the more experienced archers on the site think its worth spending the extra £100 on the arrows, I may not notice the difference at the moment but as I get more skilled would the more expensive arrows show their worth. I will also be taking on board what you have said and looking at the Navigators as they have also been recommended by members of the club.

Hope this explains better the reason my original question.

[tel]

I certainly don't count as one of the "the more experienced archers on the site" - but my immediate feeling is that at your level - and I'm talking time not results - so much can change in terms of form (draw length, anchor point, whatever) can you sensibly justify top-of-the-range arrows? Of course if money is no object, then have what you like!

[buzz lite beer]

Originally Posted by !!!

I just wondered if the more experienced archers on the site think its worth spending the extra £100 on the arrows, I may not notice the difference at the moment but as I get more skilled would the more expensive arrows show their worth. I will also be taking on board what you have said and looking at the Navigators as they have also been recommended by members of the club.

Hope this explains better the reason my original question.

I under stud your question, and yes ACE's bottom line they are most definitely worth the £100+ more than ACC's that's why they are so popular in the upper echelons, what I was basically saying is a lot of archers own them who can't do them justice and buy them because there bank balance allows and the mistaken belief that it will make them a better archer overnight. ACC's and also in there Navigator form are cheaper, easy to replace to make your set back up, though yes they have considerable loss in sight mark over ACE's, they should be (with your described set up) very usable out to 100yds + if you are developing your skill by shooting lots you increase the chances of breakage, break an £11 arrow or break a £22 arrow. just giving you stuff to think about, and telling you the normal progression in equipment is linked to the ability of the archer.

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Originally Posted by buzz lite beer

break an £11 arrow or break a £22 arrow

This was exactly what I said when I was told to get the A/C/E’s.
I want to shoot a lot, and £11 to replace a broken A/C/C arrow is enough to have to pay out. The other thing with the A/C/E’s is you can’t just replace one at a time.
No one has come on here and said that they are worth the extra £100, maybe when you are at bowman or above but certainly not at my level.
Thanks for all the input on this it’s most appreciated you have saved me wasting money.

Originally Posted by buzz lite beer

what I was basically saying is a lot of archers own them who can't do them justice and buy them because there bank balance allows and the mistaken belief that it will make them a better archer overnight

And they get really upset when a £4 arrow beats theirs

[English Bowman]

Get the ACCs, at 3rd class I don't think that ACEs are worth the extra, and a lot can change, so I'll add my vote to the cheaper end of the argument.

Daniel

[Lowfat]

there are other options , you could go for the Cartel Xperts like myself , good arrow , good value , not to expensive if you damage or loose one (IMHO) , realise the Eastons are V good arrows but i felt the cost at this time in my learning curve was to much so for now i shoot the Xperts