Spining longbow arrows for a junior?

[Ffish]

My 11 yr old son shoots both recurve and longbow, but after 2 years shooting is now tending to slowly veer away from recurve in favour of longbow archery. However, because the archery retail world doesn’t seem to cater too much for junior longbower’s, finding the correct gear for him is proving a challenge. He shoots a Steve Ralphs tri-laminate longbow, pulling about 25lbs and drawing about 25”. We originally bought his first set of dozen arrows from Steve himself, which are 5/16” with ¼” bullet points. Having weighed the points on them, they come in at around 30 grains.

I want to make his next set of arrows rather than buy them, so I’ve just got myself a set of a dozen POC 5/16 shafts correctly spined for his draw weight, but I have a question on which points I should fit to them.

Because of how the arrow shaft is pared down to take the ¼” points on his current arrows, I was going to use standard 5/16” bullet points instead of the ¼” ones. However the lightest weight points I can find in this size are 63 grain, and even those are listed as “call us to check availability” from the retailer.

So, will it be OK to fit the next weight up to these arrows (100 grain) or will this have a detrimental effect on them? My understanding is that heavier points will bring the arrows up stiffer, but at this age/draw length/poundage, will it make much difference?

He’s shooting 50 yards target distance, and 80 yards clout at the moment, if that’s of any relevance.

[SVL]

We have four junior longbow archers in our club. Three of them are JBU14 and shoot 1/4'' shafts with 60grain 1/4'' piles. Bows are all about 25lb and no archer has a draw length greater than 24''. We also tested with 5/16''shafts 100g and 60g piles and 1/4'' shafts with 40g(?). What we went with flew best and our juniors have no problem making the distance at target and clout.

[jaselpool]

Originally Posted by Ffish

My 11 yr old son shoots both recurve and longbow, but after 2 years shooting is now tending to slowly veer away from recurve in favour of longbow archery. However, because the archery retail world doesn’t seem to cater too much for junior longbower’s, finding the correct gear for him is proving a challenge. He shoots a Steve Ralphs tri-laminate longbow, pulling about 25lbs and drawing about 25”. We originally bought his first set of dozen arrows from Steve himself, which are 5/16” with ¼” bullet points. Having weighed the points on them, they come in at around 30 grains.

I want to make his next set of arrows rather than buy them, so I’ve just got myself a set of a dozen POC 5/16 shafts correctly spined for his draw weight, but I have a question on which points I should fit to them.

Because of how the arrow shaft is pared down to take the ¼” points on his current arrows, I was going to use standard 5/16” bullet points instead of the ¼” ones. However the lightest weight points I can find in this size are 63 grain, and even those are listed as “call us to check availability” from the retailer.

So, will it be OK to fit the next weight up to these arrows (100 grain) or will this have a detrimental effect on them? My understanding is that heavier points will bring the arrows up stiffer, but at this age/draw length/poundage, will it make much difference?

He’s shooting 50 yards target distance, and 80 yards clout at the moment, if that’s of any relevance.

Hi there - thanks for pointing that out. We have stocks in of 63gn in Parallel and Taper fit. Copy on the site needed updating which I've just done You will be fine with 63gn 5/16 bullets. We also stock 9/32 in 50gn in a parallel fit.

Jase

[teddybear]

my nethow is thinking of following me to long bow but the only kids bows i have found are not all wood with man made things in the lamernut, were did you get your sons bow from, he is using my old recove and i now the 30lbs is just to strong for him
thanks

[Ffish]

Originally Posted by jaselpool

Hi there - thanks for pointing that out. We have stocks in of 63gn in Parallel and Taper fit. Copy on the site needed updating which I've just done You will be fine with 63gn 5/16 bullets. We also stock 9/32 in 50gn in a parallel fit.

Jase

Fantastic, thanks Jase - I'll do an order at lunchtime (need a few bits & bobs) and let you know.

[Ffish]

Originally Posted by teddybear

were did you get your sons bow from, he is using my old recove and i now the 30lbs is just to strong for him
thanks

Tebbybear, I got the bow from Steve Ralphs longbows (here) Really helpful, knowledgable and friendly guy. Mine cost around £200 (horn nocks, tri-laminate etc) but if you dont want to spend that much on a "new venture" for your lad, he also has cheaper self nocked bows for under £100.

[teddybear]

thanks
my bow was 70 but no horn on it
i have found this site Custom Longbows from Yew Tree Archery

[robtattoo]

Originally Posted by Ffish

So, will it be OK to fit the next weight up to these arrows (100 grain) or will this have a detrimental effect on them? My understanding is that heavier points will bring the arrows up stiffer, but at this age/draw length/poundage, will it make much difference?

Sorry to correct you but heavier points will weaken, not stiffen, an arrow's spine.

[teddybear]

i guess u now about this Archer's paradox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Ffish]

Originally Posted by robtattoo

Sorry to correct you but heavier points will weaken, not stiffen, an arrow's spine.

Ahh, well done Rob, you noticed my "deliberate" typo then?