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Old 24-03-08, 11:03 PM
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If it happened for real, and the consequences were as such - alot more would be needed than a new server.
New arras???
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Old 24-03-08, 11:45 PM
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New arras???
Nice one John!!!!

I find this a bizare thread based on my little short. What I find worst is the fact that it has been hived of from another thread, given a provocative title, without the links and now appears out of context as opposed to the original reason it was posted! Going back to the original thread and you'll see that it was posted in response to a post about a 'warbow' club were people supposedly could not draw their bows. The video's were posted to illustrate that yes warbows can be shot and very effectively, the poster of the comment about the warbows quickly pointed the danger of the 'trick shot' and we quickly reached argreement on the subject, that should have been the end but I fear someone has chosen to make an issue out of it. Well argue all you like, but keep this in mind, it was between consenting adults, no one was actually hurt you can if and but all you like, it was in a foriegn land and would not happen here and no one has asked any of you to do it. As for health warnings
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Old 24-03-08, 11:59 PM
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I agree with Nick on this in the general sense, purely because I can see that the video is merely an example of the level of skill and accuracy that can be achieved, even with warbow draw weights and I enjoyed watching the video

No matter what sport/hobbie/activity that one persues in life, there are always gonna be a number of positives and negatives to whatever that activity may be, but that's just a part of life

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Old 25-03-08, 12:12 AM
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I for one would like to see more videos like this, whether or not some-one is in front of the bow!

I have practiced martial arts now for 20 years and i always appreciate the skill of others in their disciplines.

Dangerous, yes. When you have the skill do it. So some-one may get injured. That is life.
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Old 25-03-08, 12:28 AM
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To be fair - I did actually post early on that it shouldnt be broken from the original thread - and that it should just have been left...

But by the time my post hit cyberspace, it landed near the start of this thread which had already been "chopped" from the original.

Dunno who chose the title.
Yep I know mate, which is all the more annoying because it was a discussion between essentially you and I and we'd kind of agreed, yes it is danergous and yes people will do these things. So why was it seperated?
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Old 25-03-08, 01:36 AM
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I did actually find the shooting so impressive that I now want to buy high poundage a self yew longbow and a mongol bow.
Get those lat's working hard
not a fan of longbow myself but a clubmate has a 110lb hun bow and its an awesome thing - shoots astonishingly flat at 100 yards and will bury 11/32 shafts using normal target points up to their fletchings in a straw boss (admittedly not a new one) at that distance

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Old 25-03-08, 01:59 AM
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I started shooting longbow from the start of when I began shooting, and I enjoyed it so much I did get fairly proficient quite quickly... but alas, I was steered away from the trad and told I should be shooting a recurve by my coach... He basically said, you can keep "playing around" with the longbow, or get serious with the recurve, and then told me nothing would come of it if I stuck with the longbow - so here you have it, the carbon monstrosity is what I have been shooting since...

However, I did keep the pleasure of the longbow, and did design my own, which I then got a bowyer to craft for me. It is my favourite bow of all time - its a 54lb 6 laminate hickory and maple longbow made for a right handed archer, with a taylored "kink" or "curve" or "deflex" in the bottom limb close to where the grip is. It looks odd, but was designed this way and apparently took 6 attempts to make (6 broken bows lol) to get the making of it right. It generally becomes the envy of many when I take it to a longbow shoot - purely on the looks factor - as when they see it they love the shape as it does look very "bowish" somehow... it just looks ths biz... So many people approach me and ask where I got it from, and are sorely dissapointed to find the only way they can get one is to tear it from my cold dead hands...

I find it even more amusing that when the design was shown to "expert" Pip Bickerstaff, he said in no uncertain terms that such a longbow could not exist and is impossible to make. PAH! I have the bow in my room - and it shoots beautifully, nice and smooth. I have still yet to take it to him and show him like I promised I would do.

If I had a pic I would post it - maybe some other time when I can take one.
Sounds like a sweet shooting bow indeed , if you get the chance, please do post a pic as it definitely sounds pretty good and I imagine that it is also comfortable to shoot with as reguards when gripping the bow

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Old 25-03-08, 05:02 AM
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I think that having a flat trajectory would be great, but at the same time, I imagine that alot of longbow archers out there are used to their own ways of compensating for distance, wind speed, etc, but it is something that would certainly be worth trying out

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Old 25-03-08, 10:35 AM
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Were you surprised to see licensing of target pistols?

I certainly am surprised by it - they are not that dangerous really.
They can't really be concealed easily.
They have limited range.
They are not at all rapid.
They are not very powerful.
A bow is more dangerous I would say - especially a compound...
Still got banned though... what makes bows less likely to go?
The thing is that the ban was simply of 'handguns' because they wanted to ban the dangerous ones and weren't about to leave a way round it. Also, it was knee-jerk legislation so they weren't too bothered about niceties. Again, note that it was a reaction to something far more serious than an isolated accident.

How would they differentiate 'target' pistols from others? Size? They can be cut down. Calibre/power? Different amounts of charge can be substituted.

The situation with targert pistols was analogous to a situation where somebody goes on a spree with a compound bow (note 'spree', not accident). Were the government to look at banning bows, my protests that my wife's 24lb recurve is quite different wouldn't really amount to much. And actually the difference is greater that way round than it is with pistols.

The main point still remains that pistols were banned after a man took one (more?) into a school and started killing children. That is nothing like this situation.
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Old 25-03-08, 11:19 AM
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I find this thread amazing in that it shows what a complete lack of faith we have in our own government. Makes me wonder why people look at me weird for being convinced a revolution’s on the way!

I do agree in essence with what Sam says. We are all responsible for the image of our sport and the rules are made by people who have no idea of our way of life. However this seems less dangerous than knife throwing, hell even knife throwers have to practise in their back garden. I also find it stupid that the archer could be held accountable for injury or death of the guy holding the target despite being consenting adults that have not been pressured into the act.
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