Roving video

[crispy]

Nice piece of movie work and music, well done. I must say if I'd planted that flag (the English one) here in deepest West wales...............I'd have a thousand Welshmen or more to fight off and my draw and release speed is not quite at machine gun level.....yet.
Keep up the good work for the LB :-)

[steve58]

Really interesting to watch such a different style of shooting. At one point the stance of the archer (chest in, bum out) reminds me of the Hadsa (?) in a Ray Mears bushcraft video. I'm sure Ascham had something to say about kicking the back leg out though?

[englishwarbow]

Originally Posted by steve58

Really interesting to watch such a different style of shooting. At one point the stance of the archer (chest in, bum out) reminds me of the Hadsa (?) in a Ray Mears bushcraft video. I'm sure Ascham had something to say about kicking the back leg out though?

Glad you watched!

I believe he does but the two techniques you've mentioned there are for different things. The stable shooting, where the archer is shooting is for accuracy and that can be used at marks out to say 230/240 yds depending on your bow etc. The first shot on the video where you see Mark shooting perfectly illustrates this. The second style where the 'archer lifts his leg' is for outright distance shooting where only line and not grouping is important. In fact the archer doesn't lift his leg, he pushes himself foward in effect throwing the arrow of the bow. Doing this adds considerable distance to the shot, but only if you can keep a good line so the archer still has to be stable. The last clip of a solo archer illustrates this distance shooting technique.

Cheers

Nick

[steve58]

Originally Posted by englishwarbow

Glad you watched!

I believe he does but the two techniques you've mentioned there are for different things. The stable shooting, where the archer is shooting is for accuracy and that can be used at marks out to say 230/240 yds depending on your bow etc. The first shot on the video where you see Mark shooting perfectly illustrates this. The second style where the 'archer lifts his leg' is for outright distance shooting where only line and not grouping is important. In fact the archer doesn't lift his leg, he pushes himself foward in effect throwing the arrow of the bow. Doing this adds considerable distance to the shot, but only if you can keep a good line so the archer still has to be stable. The last clip of a solo archer illustrates this distance shooting technique.

Cheers

Nick

That's really interesting and makes more sense now! I was trying to think of other examples of "throwing" something and got stuck when I realised that javelin and discus also involve a single leg technique! Must be a pain to find somewhere safe to practice this? Or do you use flu flu type arrows to keep the distances down?

[jb.68]

Originally Posted by steve58

Must be a pain to find somewhere safe to practice this? Or do you use flu flu type arrows to keep the distances down?

Many of the roves are in the grounds of stately homes, so space isn't much of a problem there.

[englishwarbow]

Originally Posted by steve58

That's really interesting and makes more sense now! I was trying to think of other examples of "throwing" something and got stuck when I realised that javelin and discus also involve a single leg technique! Must be a pain to find somewhere safe to practice this? Or do you use flu flu type arrows to keep the distances down?

Yep as John says many organised shoots are in the grounds of stately homes. For every day shooting it's a bit of a mixed bag. A lot, not all, of archery clubs tend to flip if a warbow turns up and it's more often than not down to preconcieved ideas. I'm lucky, the club to which I belong allows me to shoot as I please and there is plenty of room. In fact I've got three places within 1/2 hour I can go. Others aren't so lucky, but it usualy a case of finding a freindly farmer with a large fallow field and your away!

And under no account ever use flu, flu's!

[englishwarbow]

If anyone out there wants to see this in full screen high defintion then you can find it here, it won't play on all pc's but if you have a good internet connection...

http://www.englishwarbow.com/stowe2.wmv

[steve58]

Originally Posted by jb.68

Many of the roves are in the grounds of stately homes, so space isn't much of a problem there.

But how many of us have a stately home?! I guess it's just a question of turn up at the the shoot and give it a go?

[jb.68]

Originally Posted by steve58

But how many of us have a stately home?! I guess it's just a question of turn up at the the shoot and give it a go?

Or join a club that arranges roving marks shoots at large grounds?

I think Pickwicks membership is full now but you could always contact them and enquire. Contact

As Nick says, some clubs are happy to let you shoot big bows others are not. I am also lucky in that I have a fairly free reign to shoot. We shoot on a schools playing field. And I have also been down to shoot at Richard H's club ground, where they have been very welcoming too.

[englishwarbow]

Originally Posted by steve58

But how many of us have a stately home?! I guess it's just a question of turn up at the the shoot and give it a go?

You don't need a stately home to do this, only enough room and/or an open minded archery club. This is the form of achery that made this country, it shouldn't be very difficult to find somewhere to shoot like this, but it is...sometimes. It amazing that the very essence of English archery is frowned upon by so many but that is a sign of the times. Look, ask and you'll find somewhere. Pm me I'll do my best to find something near you or you can come down and join in with us! All styles of shooting should be encouraged including ours