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Old 19-05-08, 04:55 PM
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wood stain suitable for arrows

I know this may not be too traditional, but I am building wome wooden arrows for my lad with red knock and fletchings. I wondered if it was possible to get red wood stain (not mahogony but bright red) that was suitble for arrows. I have found some by googling but they all say they are for interior use and are water based and will "lift" the wood grain so I am not sure if they would be any good.

Has anyone "been there" and if so could you recommend a suitable stin/dye?

Just found this also BRIWAX HYDROCOTE WATER BASED WOOD STAIN RED on eBay, also, Woodworking, Manufacturing Woodworking, Business, Office Industrial (end time 15-Jun-08 16:13:26 BST)
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Old 19-05-08, 05:18 PM
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I know this may not be too traditional, but I am building wome wooden arrows for my lad with red knock and fletchings. I wondered if it was possible to get red wood stain (not mahogony but bright red) that was suitble for arrows. I have found some by googling but they all say they are for interior use and are water based and will "lift" the wood grain so I am not sure if they would be any good.

Has anyone "been there" and if so could you recommend a suitable stin/dye?

Just found this also BRIWAX HYDROCOTE WATER BASED WOOD STAIN RED on eBay, also, Woodworking, Manufacturing Woodworking, Business, Office Industrial (end time 15-Jun-08 16:13:26 BST)
Hi Sambow, it might be worth giving Bald Eagle a PM, as he made some red arrows which can be viewed in the photobox under show me your arrows. titled Bald Eagles Red Arrows.
Hope this helps

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Old 19-05-08, 05:19 PM
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I have used a number of different stains on wood...most often B&Q low odour quick dry stain/varnish which comes in many colours.

I also have stained using the sadolin product to get black shafts - do this in a very well ventialated area asit is oil based.



1 - rub down the shaft with wire wool
2 - rub the dust off with a piece of rag
3 - apply stain/varnish with a sponge ( pound store multi packs of washing up sponges work well
4 - leave to dry
5 - go to 1 until there are 3 or 4 coats
6 - cut taper for nock (depending upon nock/taper tool, you may need to touch up the end of the shaft so you don't get an untreated ring)
7 - fit nocks & leave to dry - fletching glue works fine
8 - cut to length
9 - fletch to taste
10 - fit piles - slow cure araldite/epoxy
11 - after 24 hrs, shoot them

I never got around to trying my hand at cresting or dipping...
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Old 19-05-08, 05:39 PM
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I have used a number of different stains on wood...most often B&Q low odour quick dry stain/varnish which comes in many colours.
Thanks for that tarkwin.

I have just come from a B&Q warehouse, but the only stains I could find were things like mahogony, teak etc. I am not so keen on "red coloured woods" becuase I think the arrows may become harder to find as they will look more like twigs. Hence why I was hoping for a bright red.
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Old 19-05-08, 05:54 PM
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Riser: Nexus
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Sight: Sureloc Challenger
Stabilisers: Merlin triads
Button: Shibuya
Bow String: 452X
Arrows: Carbon Impact 27"

Setup
Bow: Oneida BE, Merlin Superno
String & Cables: 452X
Sight: Surelock Challenger
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Scope: Speciality, Booster
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Hi Sambow, it might be worth giving Bald Eagle a PM, as he made some red arrows which can be viewed in the photobox under show me your arrows. titled Bald Eagles Red Arrows.
Hope this helps

John
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Old 19-05-08, 05:56 PM
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last time I was looking they did a range of colours for decking, childrens furniture etc - though admittedly it was a while back...

T.
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Old 19-05-08, 06:22 PM
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Leather Dye

You can use leather dye, It comes in a much more interesting range of colours, the wood soaks it up fine.
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Old 19-05-08, 06:31 PM
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interesting!
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Old 19-05-08, 08:24 PM
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Even red shafts will be hard to find when they bury themselves. Try Indian ink, I've used it for years.
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Old 19-05-08, 08:24 PM
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Try Horological Sovents
Restoration Materials. Interior Wood Finishing Products. Proctor Street. Bury.
And Morrells
MORRELLS - 08 Series Compliant Water Stains

I have a tin of Rustins Colourglaze in red that I have used on guitar bodies.

There used to be a range of toy stains available in B&Q but alas no longer.
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