International Longbow Archers Association

[Dreadnaught]

ILAA insurance was started by Brian Mooyaart of the Fraternity of st. George at the last marks shoot when he found out GNAS insurance didn't cover us as well as we have all been led to belive. BLBS insurance covers you ONLY when shooting 2WAY clout and target. Field archery groups of which I know nothing don't cover roving marks properly either. The idea is to have a longbow insurance which covers you when shooting longbow at any time. Its price at just £6 is much cheaper than GNAS because arrow speed is much less than compounds or recurve. I will probably not rejoin GNAS this year as I belive it is a rip off and these days working against our intrests not for them

[stevesjem]

As far as i know and i could be wrong, The BLBS only covers you for official BLBS shoots, the NFAS will also only cover you for NFAS official shoots and the same for the GNAS, This ILAA is definately organised by the Fraternity of St George, ths makes me wonder why the change? Is it possible that up untill now all of the Fraternity shoots except those recognised by the BLBS were uninsured, or is it also possible that the Fraternity has fallen out of favour with the BLBS and is now not covering the Fraternity shoots....who knows.
Personally i don't really care as i was banned from shooting there many years ago as i requested insurance information as i needed to know if i was covered, but all i got was an abusive letter from the Fraternity organisers threatening me with legal action, Hey Ho.
if there is anyone out there who has taken out this insurance policy from ILAA can they please post the company who is covering the insurance and maybe a copy of the policy itself, it would be interesting to find out the details of the policy to see if it genuine or not.

[Lord_Azrael]

This has opened an interesting can-of-worms that has me rather more perplexed than before.

I believe a full run down of insurance details for all available companies, along with costs etc, would be worthwhile posting up here.

I am currently with our RAF club, of which many are now using longbows.
Am I right, therefore, in believing that the BLBS membership I have covers me on the basis of the target and clout shooting and that I am therefore paying a lot of money for GNAS that I don't really ned to?

I have found it rather annoying lately that, even with reduced discount for it being a club membership deal, we have to pay for GNAS, Scottish Archery Association (SAA, our area) and also Northern Area when all I actually shoot is at the club.
All I've seen recently with both GNAS and SAA is ridiculous amounts of our money being wasted on things like logo changes!

So, with that in mind, I feel we really need to find out what we actually need to pay for what we do. I appreciate that many events require proof of GNAS membership..fine, but as I'm not shooting at those events, it's a lot to pay out for!

[Dreadnaught]

I suggest you be careful Lord Azrael like you I am thinking of not renewing GNAS, but, don't rely on BLBS insurance unless you are shooting 2 way. I hope (but am not optermistic) that ILAA will become widely accepted even at GNAS tournaments.

[stevesjem]

There is also another option and that is one insurance cover which covers you for any archery event, this can be bought quite cheaply from Sportsguard, here is the link.
http://www.sportscoverdirect.com/act...up=1&sportid=8

Hope this helps

Steve

[Lord_Azrael]

Thanks for that. I've just done an online quote and it covers a year for £30.
Maybe worth considering as an option. I'm all for having one place to join and pay for, but it seems to be a constant case of paying out for different 'factions'

[English Bowman]

Originally Posted by Dreadnaught

I suggest you be careful Lord Azrael like you I am thinking of not renewing GNAS, but, don't rely on BLBS insurance unless you are shooting 2 way. I hope (but am not optermistic) that ILAA will become widely accepted even at GNAS tournaments.

As I understand it BLBS and GNAS have an arrangement where BLBS members can shoot under the GNAS' insurance at GNAS Longbow shoots and vice virsa. I am not 100% and will have to check this, but I am sure that BLBS will cover you if you are only shooting 1 way, and will also cover you for clout. Not sure about the rest of it as I'm a GNAS member. I'm sure that Artemis can confirm if I'm right or not. I personally don't see the ILAA's reason for existence and am dubious about the cover that it provides. As I said before the website seems to be propaganda, some of it very anti other societies and not all of it true. I don't like that. Add that to the fact that there is not full contact details provided and I wouldn't touch them with a 10' barge-pole. Also I'd like to see the various societies working more closely together, another splinter group is the last thing that we need in my opinion.

Daniel

[stevesjem]

I think you are right to be sceptical about the ILAA and everything that goes with it. I mean to advertise a shoot, get everyone there and then tell them that they cannot shoot unless they take out this strange insurance policy, sounds to me like another way of filling ones back pocket. But that is only my opinion....I could be mistaken and I apologise to the ILAA if i am.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by Lord_Azrael

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I am currently with our RAF club, of which many are now using longbows.
Am I right, therefore, in believing that the BLBS membership I have covers me on the basis of the target and clout shooting and that I am therefore paying a lot of money for GNAS that I don't really ned to?

I have found it rather annoying lately that, even with reduced discount for it being a club membership deal, we have to pay for GNAS, Scottish Archery Association (SAA, our area) and also Northern Area when all I actually shoot is at the club.

So, with that in mind, I feel we really need to find out what we actually need to pay for what we do. I appreciate that many events require proof of GNAS membership..fine, but as I'm not shooting at those events, it's a lot to pay out for!

BLBS membership will cover you at Target Clout, Flight or Roving at fixed marks - that is official. However, if you are in a mixed club you will be expected to join GNAS for the sake of the other archers and the club. Only longbow only clubs are covered by BLBS, and they are still covered even if they are unable to shoot 2-way.

Although GNAS expect you to join them via club, county and region it is not obligatory and you can join direct - but it will cost you more. But what is so wrong with supporting your county and regional organisations ? They probably do more for you than perhaps GNAS does; the cut they get is quite small.

At some GNAS Tournaments BLBS Insurance will cover you, if they are 2-way longbow shoots. It will not cover you at a 1-way shoot with other bows on the line even if you are shooting a longbow. Hope that helps.

[Quadratus]

Oh god! Not another association! It would seem that the thinner the branch, the more it splinters - and then it breaks!