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Old 22-07-08, 11:28 PM
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Question 100 yards sight marks

OK, I 'm looking for those of you who shoot ELB with 50# to 58# on the fingers and can either put the pile of the arrow on the gold at 100, or even use a rubber band at that distance.

If this is you I'd be interested in who made your bow and what woods it is. I'd also like to know about the rest of your set up.

The reason for this thread is that I am getting frustrated with shooting at invisible bosses at 100 yards! (Although I do like to see the arrows in the air I also like to hear them hit!) In competition this season I am getting about 2 hits per dozen, average score 9 per dozen. Last season I averaged 244 for a York, with a best of 319. Nowhere near that this year (274, 245, 202).

My bows are both by Bickerstaffe. Hickory backs, osage bellies, one has a single core of greenheart, the other has a double core (can't remember what).

Fastflight string, use a tab, not a glove.

Best sight mark is the valley between the first two knuckles of the bow hand on the gold. Arrows for this are 5/16" pine, rear taper, 100 grain piles, 3" low profile fletches, weight is about 470 grains.

Tried Sitka last season and had problems with the belly of my original bow, Mt Bickerstaffe had to repair it and had some harsh words to say about excessively light arrows. Could just have been an unlucky bit of wood I suppose.
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Old 22-07-08, 11:46 PM
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A 60lb Alan Fleming bamboo longbow eats any distance, including 180yd clout!!
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Old 23-07-08, 02:20 AM
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not dead yet has a stick that he aims on the gold at 100yards... cant remember anything about it though!
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Photo of me shooting at 100 yards at the 2001 Scorton.
Put it in Photobox
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Old 23-07-08, 07:02 PM
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Photo of me shooting at 100 yards at the 2001 Scorton.
Put it in Photobox
Checked that out Cloutman360. My anchor point is very similar to yours and I do have quite a long face. So the influnece of the chin on angle of launch seems not to be the issue, therefore either your technique or your kit is superior to mine (who am I kidding? both!) Wonder how Jimmy Hill would have got on?!
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a stick LMP a stick.

its me beast.

rod lyons of liverpool. made the beast.
fast as a compound over 20 yds.

f/f string aim on gold 100yds 11/32 shafts3" feathers.

said to rod at a longbow shoot you made it you shoot it his words were i'm not shooting that beast.

hence the name.

it was actually made for another archer as a spare bow.
his main bow was 75lb 27" draw. first fita / york. 9 british records.

my dads elb is a lyons bow
viv g longbows are also lyons bows.
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Old 24-07-08, 11:24 PM
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Limbs: Bickerstaffe LB, 53lbs
Sight: O ring
Stabilisers: Large feet!
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Bow String:
Arrows: Many!

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a stick LMP a stick.

its me beast.

rod lyons of liverpool. made the beast.
fast as a compound over 20 yds.

f/f string aim on gold 100yds 11/32 shafts3" feathers.

said to rod at a longbow shoot you made it you shoot it his words were i'm not shooting that beast.

hence the name.

it was actually made for another archer as a spare bow.
his main bow was 75lb 27" draw. first fita / york. 9 british records.

my dads elb is a lyons bow
viv g longbows are also lyons bows.
Now that's what I call a stick! (By the way, googled Rod Lyons and found no bowyers...)

My wife came up to the field and took some photos of me shooting tonight. Her camera can do little burst of shots, like those flicker books (remember drawing the stick men in the corners of exercise books at school?) Anyway, that was really useful, because I have found several points where my shot is really, really inefficient. With some work I may be able to improve the repeatability of the shot and get my averages up a bit.
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[quote=steve58;252768]Now that's what I call a stick! (By the way, googled Rod Lyons and found no bowyers...)

Try google BLBS,then click on GUILD.
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