archery law

[ChakaZulu]

The notion that these laws still exist is what we lawyers call 'a load of old cobblers'.

Those that did exist (and some are urban legend) have been repealed. Not necessarily explicitly (although many were, especially when firearms came to prominence), but they have been repealed.

English law contains a fundamental principle called implied repeal. To take an example, the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (still the main law covering assault etc) impliedly repealed any laws suggesting that you could asault people for being within Chester/York/Hereford etc after dark/in the morning/on Sunday etc.

The laws outlawing football have been impliedly repealed by, amongst others, the Football Spectators Acts. Paid leave for archery practice would have been repealed by those laws that set out employment law in great detail but curiously fail to mention archery practice. That omission is taken to mean repeal.


Anyhow, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but it seemed to finish without an answer, so I thought I'd provide one.

[alanesq]

Thanks for that
Not the answer I wanted but good to finally have an answer

[ChakaZulu]

It is boring, isn't it?
I went to school near Nottingham and remember hearing about a friend's friend's old teacher's friend who had exercised his right to close the road and practise his archery, only to be arrested and charged because he wasn't wearing Lincoln green at the time.

All rubbish, sad to say.

[Haywain]

Originally Posted by ChakaZulu

The notion that these laws still exist is what we lawyers call 'a load of old cobblers'.

Those that did exist (and some are urban legend) have been repealed. Not necessarily explicitly (although many were, especially when firearms came to prominence), but they have been repealed.

English law contains a fundamental principle called implied repeal. To take an example, the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (still the main law covering assault etc) impliedly repealed any laws suggesting that you could asault people for being within Chester/York/Hereford etc after dark/in the morning/on Sunday etc.

The laws outlawing football have been impliedly repealed by, amongst others, the Football Spectators Acts. Paid leave for archery practice would have been repealed by those laws that set out employment law in great detail but curiously fail to mention archery practice. That omission is taken to mean repeal.


Anyhow, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but it seemed to finish without an answer, so I thought I'd provide one.

Well said. I must admit when ever I hear these laws being quoted, it sends a shiver down my spine, even moe so when someone mentions that stupid Dumblaws website (unqualified and unresearched).

It would be nice to have those covering archery practice back, but I can't see it happening. We don't exactly need a standing army of archers anymore, something which those Asizes of Arms were intended to cover.

There is an oft quoted saying in the legal profession "Those with a little knowledge of the law are the most dangerous and are best avoided" mainly because they are more likely to find themselves in trouble than the rest of us. You need all the facts, not just the snippets you like.

[compkiller]

Originally Posted by ChakaZulu

The notion that these laws still exist is what we lawyers call 'a load of old cobblers'.

Those that did exist (and some are urban legend) have been repealed. Not necessarily explicitly (although many were, especially when firearms came to prominence), but they have been repealed.

English law contains a fundamental principle called implied repeal. To take an example, the Offences Against the Person Act 1861 (still the main law covering assault etc) impliedly repealed any laws suggesting that you could asault people for being within Chester/York/Hereford etc after dark/in the morning/on Sunday etc.

The laws outlawing football have been impliedly repealed by, amongst others, the Football Spectators Acts. Paid leave for archery practice would have been repealed by those laws that set out employment law in great detail but curiously fail to mention archery practice. That omission is taken to mean repeal.


Anyhow, sorry to resurrect an old thread, but it seemed to finish without an answer, so I thought I'd provide one.

Would this apply for the one about King Charles Spaniels being the only dog other than guide dogs that cannot be barred from entering any shop / building etc.

[ChakaZulu]

I hadn't heard that one, but I suspect that if it ever existed it could probably be taken to have been overruled at some point.

Essentially you have to find out when the law comes from and then go through any legislation that touches on the subject since then to see whether anything seems to be contrary to it.

I have my doubts about whether that one was ever enacted in the first place, to be honest...

[Fran C]

Originally Posted by ChakaZulu

I hadn't heard that one, but I suspect that if it ever existed it could probably be taken to have been overruled at some point.

I have my doubts about whether that one was ever enacted in the first place, to be honest...

It sounds inherently unlikely, doesn't it. Guide dogs haven't been around for long enough, for one thing; for another, AFAIK there is no legislation that says they have to be allowed anywhere. Surely they and other 'helping' dogs are permitted in places at the discretion of whoever's job it is to make such decisions?

Go on somebody, tell me I'm wrong...

[chrism]

Off topic a little, but does this mean I can no longer be hanged/beheaded for picking rhubarb from the banks of canals?

Also I'm little releved that I can now walk within the walls of Chester after nightfall with out fear of being stabbed/shot (legitimatley)

[rascal_phill]

I recall surfing the net for the laws and found loads of interesting stuff when I started this malarky. All coz I really love the sport and technical stuff etc...
anyway
I found that a lot of the laws were progressively repealed over time as stated and as far as requirement to practice archery etc. was effectively swept up in a 1969 or there abouts "Gaming Act".
It is a complex trail and all too many people have a little knowledge much of which is hearsay and tails from the old man in the corner of a pub which will have some limited level of fact in it all used to stimulate his audience. Similar to any curator who wishes to stimulate curiosity!

anyhow just my tuppence worth
Happy new yearto all of you.
Phill