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Old 14-10-05, 12:43 PM
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Advice please



Although a coach,&amp; a part-time long-bow archer (Very part-time ) I need some advice on arrow spine to bow-weight, in fact, any advice on the arrow would be welcome.</p>

I shoot 31inch @ #50 from a 78inch Bickerstaff Yew/Hickory with Fastflight string (Made by Pip himself for the bow) can't remember what the spine is though. I have made my own arrows in the past, so there is no problem there exept spine/weight. String making (Endless loop)I can do, I have to, I own 25 trainer bows &amp; to buy#strings#for them, I'll need a full time job to pay for them The Flemmish I have tried once as an experiment, but it did not work out.Having watched Pip running up a Flemmish string, I gave it another go &amp; it worked out. Trouble is...it was quite some time ago &amp; the memory aint as good as it used to be.I# also need to pass on this advice to other (Wannabe) archers for a course I might be running next year.</p>

Thanks in advance.</p>

C.</p>
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Old 16-10-05, 09:30 PM
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RE: Advice please

Arrow spine for longbows is a far from exact science. I start with the arrows rated at 2/3 the bow's draw wieght for a 28" arrow, make them up and see how they fly. If they come out wrong, adjust the spine for the next lot. The problem is that being made of natuaral materials every bow shoots differently and what will work with one 50lb bow won't work with another. I would start with 40/45lb shafts with 100grn piles for your set up, make up half a doz and see how they go.

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Thanks fo that.
I wold have got back sooner, but with being off-line for a while, & the new website setting up (I had not set up the user cp) I had fogotten I had asked the question.
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Cliveanne,

Here's a link to How to make a Flemish Twist Bowstring.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/ragiwarmbea...h/flemish.html

Made up a jig myself and it works fine. Recommend using 2 or 3 colours, as it can get confusing laying the loops, unless you mark the individual twists with a marker pen.

Hope this helps.

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Now that is what I call a 1st class link, great
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Although a coach,&amp; a part-time long-bow archer (Very part-time ) I need some advice on arrow spine to bow-weight, in fact, any advice on the arrow would be welcome.</p>

I shoot 31inch @ #50 from a 78inch Bickerstaff Yew/Hickory with Fastflight string (Made by Pip himself for the bow) can't remember what the spine is though. I have made my own arrows in the past, so there is no problem there exept spine/weight. String making (Endless loop)I can do, I have to, I own 25 trainer bows &amp; to buy*strings*for them, I'll need a full time job to pay for them The Flemmish I have tried once as an experiment, but it did not work out.Having watched Pip running up a Flemmish string, I gave it another go &amp; it worked out. Trouble is...it was quite some time ago &amp; the memory aint as good as it used to be.I* also need to pass on this advice to other (Wannabe) archers for a course I might be running next year.</p>

Thanks in advance.</p>

C.</p>

See Incomplete Longbow website

Selecting the spine of your arrows

The values of spines are given in pounds for a 26 shaft suitable for a recurve bow. Hilary Greenland recommends that you select arrows which are spined for two thirds or three quarters of the actual draw weight of your bow at your draw length. Quicks have provided a table based on the draw weight of the bow with values for different arrow lengths (nock to pile) from which the following is an extract:

Longbow/arrow length
................. 24" .... 26" .... 28" .... 30" .... 32"
30-38lbs - 20/25 25/30 30/35 35/40 -
38-45lbs - 20/25 25/30 30/35 35/40 40/45
45-53lbs - 25/30 30/35 35/40 40/45 45/50
53-60lbs - 30/35 35/40 40/45 45/50 50/55
60-68lbs - 35/40 40/45 45/50 50/55 55/60

The values of the spines are given in ranges of 5lbs as this is the usual accuracy at which they are sold. So if you were hoping to make a set of a dozen arrows between 34-36lbs, you will need to buy two dozen shafts!
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This is occuring more and more - what is '&amp',</p>, *whatever* all about? Give me a break!
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tel - those are the keys used to give smilies!! = : )
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I agree, some of them don't - I don't know why!!!
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