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Old 04-12-06, 01:51 AM
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Rougie. What kind of bow do you shoot?
I only recently got into archery, and I own a traditional Hungarian recurve bow.
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Old 04-12-06, 01:53 AM
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I only recently got into archery, and I own a traditional Hungarian recurve bow.

Don't you think having a recurve in the bow is cheating? Why not opt for a traditional longbow (one without a recurve)?
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Old 04-12-06, 01:54 AM
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Perhaps you should try a basic flatbow. By your own logic you are 'cheating' by using a composite recurve...or perhaps you are merely shooting a different discipline?
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Old 04-12-06, 01:58 AM
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yeah they've got you there...
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Old 04-12-06, 02:11 AM
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Surely it is more gratifying to hit something on target with a traditional bow, than hitting it on target with a hi-tech bow? - I just can't understand why someone would want the extra accuracy, if it is not their own skills which are creating said accuracy.
As you have not shot a compound or target recurve you made a basic mistake. You can't buy toys to get the accuracy. You have to be come skilled in the use of the equipment to gain the accuracy. You may be happy to get six arrows on the target at 100yds, and if you do then gained the skill for the level of accuracy that your equipment is capable of.My goal is a a lot better than that, with the same level of skill that you have to put six arrows on the target at 100yds I am looking to put six arrows in the gold at 100yds (Ok may be four in the gold and two in the red.) because that is the level of accuracy that my equipment is capable of.. With that exercise of the same level of skill comes the same level of gratification.
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Old 04-12-06, 02:12 AM
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Perhaps you should try a basic flatbow. By your own logic you are 'cheating' by using a composite recurve...or perhaps you are merely shooting a different discipline?
Personally I don't think it's cheating as long as the bow is made entirely out of wood, has no 'modern modifications' (Like scopes and all that), and was used thousands* of years ago - Such is where 'traditional' comes in.

I mean, if it was good enough for the Mongols, it's good enough for me!

I must reiterate that I am new to archery and that anything I say is based upon research I've done, rather than actually using all bow types and seeing the benefits first hand. So I am open to much criticism in terms of this.

I do somewhat agree with what you have all said, but I am still not 'totally' convinced :/
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Old 04-12-06, 02:14 AM
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Then my best advice is to try a recurve and a compound and find out for yourself. Instead of going for hits try and get golds each time and see how much skill that needs, even with all the tools.
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Old 04-12-06, 02:23 AM
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Personally I don't think it's cheating as long as the bow is made entirely out of wood, has no 'modern modifications' (Like scopes and all that), and was used thousands* of years ago - Such is where 'traditional' comes in.

I mean, if it was good enough for the Mongols, it's good enough for me!

I must reiterate that I am new to archery and that anything I say is based upon research I've done, rather than actually using all bow types and seeing the benefits first hand. So I am open to much criticism in terms of this.

I do somewhat agree with what you have all said, but I am still not 'totally' convinced :/

The Mongols used a horn (or sometime bone) and sinew bow. a recurve composite bow. This design was documented by the Romans and used by the archers of the Eastern Roman Empire.
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Old 04-12-06, 02:27 AM
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I shall be honest with you: I think I need more experience in archery and with the different disciplines (Even modern ones) before continuing this arguement further.
So for now, I concede to you all.
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Old 04-12-06, 02:36 AM
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Well done. it is a wise man who knows what he has yet to learn, and have fun learning.
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